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**where did the current top coaches come from?**

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  • jadennis said...

    If you've spent 3 minutes on the board in the last few months, you've noticed that Auburn is likely headed for the basement of all of football. It's almost a guarantee.

    Pretty much any hire we make is, apparently, going to incite at least 30% of this board to suggest we should concede the West Division to Alabama, LSU, Texas A&M, and even Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Arkansas (no matter who they hire).

    According to the board...

    Head coaches from small programs can't win. Coordinators without experience can't win. Head coaches that lose games they shouldn't lose can't win. Head coaches that have a losing record against Saban can't win. Head coaches that aren't "proven" in the SEC can't win.

    The only coach that can win? That would be Coach Big-Name. Whoever that is.

    So I thought I'd take a look at the BCS conference schools in the Top 25 right now, and see what category they fall into.

    Notre Dame - proven head coach smaller school Alabama - proven SEC head coach Florida - coordinator, no head coaching experience Oregon - coordinator, no head coaching experience Kansas St - coordinator, no head coaching experience (originally) Stanford - coordinator, no head coaching experience Georgia - coordinator, no head coaching experience LSU - previous head coach, mediocre Texas A&M - proven head coach smaller school S. Carolina - proven SEC head coach Oklahoma - coordinator, no head coaching experience Florida St - coordinator, no head coaching experience Oregon St - coordinator, no head coaching experience (originally) Clemson - coordinator, no head coaching experience Nebraska - coordinator, no head coaching experience UCLA - previous NFL head coach, mediocre Michigan - proven head coach smaller school Northwestern - position coach, no head coaching experience Louisville - coordinator, no head coaching experience Texas - proven head coach

    So the count of the BCS schools in the current Top 25 BCS standings... 12 - coordinator, no head coaching experience 3 - proven head coach smaller school 2 - proven SEC head coach 1 - previous NFL head coach, mediocre 1 - previous head coach, mediocre 1 - proven head coach

    I'm somewhat wondering why I just listed all of that, as I have my doubts about it calming any of the hysteria. But hopefully people will take a minute to digest the info. There are lots of ways to succeed.

    As I posted a while back about "great coaches"....they almost always become great AFTER they get to the right program at the right time. Very rarely do programs hire coaches that are already "great" on a national scale, because such coaches are typically already set at their current job.

    99% chance Bob Stoops isn't leaving Oklahoma. 99% chance Les Miles isn't leaving LSU. 99% chance Chip Kelly isn't leaving Oregon (except for the NFL)

    We need to be prepared that there is a good chance we will hire someone similar to who Florida recently hired...who Georgia hired....who Oklahoma hired....who Nebraska hired.....who Michigan hired....who Notre Dame hired. I'm not sure where the idea came from that the TOP programs in the country only hire proven, successful head coaches. That is actually the very, very rare exception.

    LMAO!!!!

    Thanks for finally getting out a sledgehammer.....

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  • This is the most logical thing I've heard and seen posted by anyone in over a month on any message board. I've try to explain this very concept to people but somehow they cannot see past Tuscaloosa to determine what kind of coach we should hire. I clearly remember when Florida hire Urban Myer and a lot of SEC media and fans were all saying he couldn't win there. They were all wrong. Good coaches can win at any level given the talent and opportunity.

    We won a BCS Championship with a coach that was 5-19 when we hired him. Yes we had Cam, Urban had Tebow and Saban had a whole host of players. That's the way it works. Auburn can win with Patterson, Petrino, Malzhan, Smart, etc. We have a strong program and most coaches, even Tubs could manage and run a successful program at Auburn and he was at Ole Miss and had never won big as a HC.

    We will be fine with whomever we hire from the "list". Great post. I could not agree more.

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  • jadennis said...

    If you've spent 3 minutes on the board in the last few months, you've noticed that Auburn is likely headed for the basement of all of football. It's almost a guarantee.

    [snip]

    We need to be prepared that there is a good chance we will hire someone similar to who Florida recently hired...who Georgia hired....who Oklahoma hired....who Nebraska hired.....who Michigan hired....who Notre Dame hired. I'm not sure where the idea came from that the TOP programs in the country only hire proven, successful head coaches. That is actually the very, very rare exception.

    Absolutely - what he said!

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  • There you go again, jadennis, posting facts and stuff. Very excellent information and I concur 100%!

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  • This should be put in prose form and titled The Auburn Hire Desiderata.

    Great info. Thx!

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  • Thank you Jade!!!! I concur 100%!!!

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