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So you think we are settling for mediocrity?

  • I hear you Mr. Message Board Poster. You think we are soft. You think we are happy to go to the Planters Nut Bowl and watch our boys take on North Nowhere State. You think that we as a program should expect and demand excellence. You are tired of everyone talking about our program like we just picked up a football, and you are tired of our head-man being compared to Mike Dubose. You think the only way to do that is show the world how we-don't-care-what-anybody-thinks and fire our coach. Otherwise, you say, we are just happy being 8-5.

    But I beg to differ.

    I think you are settling. I think you are knee-jerk reacting to something that can't be solved by jerking any part of one's body. I think there are no quick fixes. I think a great program has to be built from the ground up on character, discipline, and stability. I think when we pull the plug every-other-year that we are hitting the reset button on the program. I think impatience isn't a virtue. I think belief and faith and hope are better motivators than fear, anger, and distrust. I think a national championship wasn't a fluke, but rather a result of togetherness, faith, and talent.

    I am not happy with 8 and 5. But I am even less happy with firing up the moving trucks, and rolling the dice with the latest member of the coordinator-of-the-month club.

    realist

  • Do you call character and discipline letting a star running back basically do anything he wants and brag to his team-mates about it. Maybe Chizik has come to his senses and started culling the bad fruit. I hope so. I also hope it isn't too late.

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  • jmj120 said...

    Do you call character and discipline letting a star running back basically do anything he wants and brag to his team-mates about it. Maybe Chizik has come to his senses and started culling the bad fruit. I hope so. I also hope it isn't too late.

    let me start this by saying I have no proof or inside info about the Dyer situation just what I have heard on this board and other places, but a lot of times the simplest and easiest reached answer is likely the right one. It seems to me that the most likely situation regarding Dyer is that Malzahn was the one that was pushing Chizik to do whatever it took to keep him on the field. Malzahn was the one trying to get a head coaching job somewhere so mainatining his offense at all costs was his primary goal, he likely didn't have a problem hurting the future of the program to help his present. I think all this became much more likely once Malzahn took ( I believe was pushed by Chizik ) to take Ark St. job, and Dyer quickly followed him. Then I don't think it took Malzahn long to figure out that Dyer was just too big a problem for any head coach to deal with.
    I know a lot are going to argue that CGC was the head coach and it was his job to do what he though was right, but I also believe that following the NC he let the pressure get to him to keep Dyer on the field and also to keep Malzahn as the OC ( can you imagine this board and others had he let his OC go and kicked Dyer off the team after the 2010 NC ). I think he learned a lesson from caving to the pressure and now he has his mind set as to the direction he is taking this program come hell or highwater. It may cost him his job, but I dont think it will and I think that Auburn University and the Auburn Football Program will be better for it.

    Just my 2 cents

    turner4491

  • jmj120 said...

    Do you call character and discipline letting a star running back basically do anything he wants and brag to his team-mates about it. Maybe Chizik has come to his senses and started culling the bad fruit. I hope so. I also hope it isn't too late.

    If the best you have is message board innuendo, you don't have a whole lot. I refuse to castigate a man for some hear-say. Until you know the entire situation, you can't pass judgement. I am not giving him a free pass, I am simply trying to be fair.

    If an event is common public knowledge, i.e. an arrest or DUI or something similar, then it is fair game to judge a coach on how he reacts to it. If an event is shrouded in secrecy to the public - like the Mike Dyer saga - then how can you judge a man in that case?

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  • Please give us a list of coaches who have top programs and top talent which does not include a major disciplinary issue ever being involved... Saban, no... hmmm... Lane Kiffin, hahahaha... Chip Kelly, nope... Surely the ole ball coach fits this category when no one else could, wrong... Jim Tressel? That one's retorical... I know, URBAN MEYER! baahaha... Lets see... Bobby Bowden, Mark Richt, and Lloyd Carr? dang dang dang.

    Its like biggie said, the more money you have, the more problems you get.

    Top programs are rich with talent, most are rich in tradition, and they are certainly bringing in the dough. That combination is going to foster disciplinary problems.

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