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Saban can't be a great NFL coach

  • Because he can't manipulate the system like he can in college ball. He has a friend at the head of the enforcement agency and he can process kids out of his program if he doesn't see any value in them. It doesn't work that way in the league and that is why he flopped in Miami. He is a very good college coach with talent superior to his competition. In the NFL he would be on the same level as everyone else and he knows he can't win when that's the case.

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  • HE knows he can't win when that's the case, or YOU think he can't win when that's the case?

    I have a hard time believing that HE thinks he can't win if he's on a level playing field. You might think it, but I'm sure he doesn't.

    I also don't know if I agree really. I think he's a darn good coach no matter how you slice it. Perfect? No, he's not perfect, but he's pretty darn good I think. Considering his roster in Miami, which wasn't horrible but wasn't very good, he didn't "flop".

    Miami was 4-12 the year before Saban got there. They went 9-7 his first season. After some personnel changes and a horrible QB situation, they had a tough year in 2006, going 6-10.

    But the year after Saban left, they had an even worse QB situation and went 1-15.

    I don't think his two years in Miami really tell us much about how he can do as an NFL coach. I wouldn't be too shocked either way, if he was mediocre again or if he was really good. But I think we'll find out in the next few years.

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    HE knows he can't win when that's the case, or YOU think he can't win when that's the case?

    I have a hard time believing that HE thinks he can't win if he's on a level playing field. You might think it, but I'm sure he doesn't.

    I also don't know if I agree really. I think he's a darn good coach no matter how you slice it. Perfect? No, he's not perfect, but he's pretty darn good I think. Considering his roster in Miami, which wasn't horrible but wasn't very good, he didn't "flop".

    Miami was 4-12 the year before Saban got there. They went 9-7 his first season. After some personnel changes and a horrible QB situation, they had a tough year in 2006, going 6-10.

    But the year after Saban left, they had an even worse QB situation and went 1-15.

    I don't think his two years in Miami really tell us much about how he can do as an NFL coach. I wouldn't be too shocked either way, if he was mediocre again or if he was really good. But I think we'll find out in the next few years.

    I think if Saban would've got his QB choice in Miami (He wanted Brees over Culpepper) he would still be there.

    Luckily the Saints got him and have enjoyed his success! WHO DAT!

    why the down vote?

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by AUSig12 on 12/11/2012 at 4:10 PM

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    I'd like to thank all my coaches, all my teammates. I'd like to thank my brother Charlie, I love you Charlie, we did it mama, we did it!

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    I'd like to thank all my coaches, all my teammates. I'd like to thank my brother Charlie, I love you Charlie, we did it mama, we did it!

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  • AU Sig '12 said...

    I think if Saban would've got his QB choice in Miami (He wanted Brees over Culpepper) he would still be there.

    I'm a Dolphins fan and followed the team every day during his tenure in Miami. Saban had complete control and could have taken either quarterback - the Dolphins' training staff recommended against Brees and he trusted them, but he had the final say as he did on all personnel matters and he could just as easily have taken Brees.

    Saban had absolutely complete control of the franchise and demonstrated two things in those two years: he's an outstanding head coach and teacher (his teams were very well coached and he made excellent adjustments during the game), but he was a poor personnel guy, making very short-sighted decisions instead of doing what's best in the long-term. It was also assumed that, coming out of college, he had an advantage for the draft but both of his drafts were poor. He also didn't do very well with veteran players, like Heath Evans. And he was an ABSOLUTE A-hole to everyone else in the organization and the media. He once had his secretary chastised for "distracting" him by saying "good morning" to him as he walked down the hall.

    I think he will eventually go back to the NFL and if he has the humility to do it with a GM like Lombardi he will be very, very successful.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by AubieXIII on 12/11/2012 at 6:14 PM

    Alabama delenda est.

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  • TillmanReverse said...

    Because he can't manipulate the system like he can in college ball. He has a friend at the head of the enforcement agency and he can process kids out of his program if he doesn't see any value in them. It doesn't work that way in the league and that is why he flopped in Miami. He is a very good college coach with talent superior to his competition. In the NFL he would be on the same level as everyone else and he knows he can't win when that's the case.

    +1

    The man wasn't much until he had number one classes four out of five years. Remember he had two top three classes at LSU before he won the MNC.

    jrjc

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