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#PMARSHONAU: A bizarre story

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    I like the direction of both the basketball teams are playing and their effort. Do you think the coaches are one or two recruiting classes away from compeating for sec championships?

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  • horsetrainer23 said...

    A fellow ND player came out yesterday and said Manti knew and just played along. Said he likes attention.

    After watching the UK vs ND basketball game early in the season and seeing Teo in the crowd more often than the game flexing and all kinds of things for attention, this comes as no surprise.

    This post was edited by AUinKY on 1/18/2013 at 10:49 AM

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  • WDEMusicCityMH said...

    Phillip, The Teo, Newton, and Honey Badger stories are exactly why I appreciate the work you and Brian do. Thank you for being reporters. Journalism today has turned into telling people what they should think (whether in sports, politics, etc.) rather than reporting facts and letting others form an opinion of their own. (I won't mention any names, but one in sports that rhymes with Devin Starbinski comes to minds.) I hope the trend of producing propaganda over true reporting is not being taught in journalism schools, but it seems to be an ever-increasing trend to be by chance. Thank you for what you do.

    I totally agree!!! The details in this case will come out ....but I think the legacy of this story needs to be the poor journalism or lack of journalism.

    I don't want these writers to get a pass after saying 'Sorry'.

    TigerDaveArch84

  • This whole story is silly but important in the sense it is symtomatic and instructional.

    First off, regarding who was behind this hooey, there is a very simple way to find out if Manti was duped or one of the perpetrators of the hoax. The roses - he said he sent white roses to her funeral because they were her favorite flower. The only way he could have done that from South Bend, no matter if he used an internet service or found online or called a local Carson, CA florist, was to order them, giving the company delivery instructions and a message for the card and pay for them with a credit card. It would be a very simple matter for him to print a copy of his credit card statement containing the record of the charge and produce it for the media. If he cannot produce the credit card charge documentation then this is the thread that when pulled on unravels the whole story and proves he was involved in concocting this hoax.

    If he produces documentation for the credit card charge, it will list the delivery address, whether it was a church, mortuary or cemetery along with instructions and message. He would have also been contacted very soon after the order was placed notifying him that there was no record of any service for the name indicated on the charge and so his order was undeliverable. Which means that if he was indeed duped by a person or persons and had been strung along for months or years (ridiculous to even consider but whatever) then he definitely knew, at least soon after attempting to send the flowers to her funeral service, that no one by that name had died, ergo, he was being duped. So in either case, at the very least by the time he was interviewed shortly after her "death" he knew the truth, whatever that was.

    It really is amazing that supposed "national journalists" working at the highest levels in their field, each with a finely honed individual "BS" detection system developed through years of dealing with news stories and the people connected with those stories either took everything around this story at face value with no questions or decided to totally ignore huge red flags fluttering right in front of their eyes. It's further proof that the field of journalism and the news media has been taken over at all levels, from the field through upper management, by idealogues who write, edit and approve stories as they see them through the prism of their belief system.

    And if you were a "crack" journalist working for a national magazine or a national television broadcast network working on this story wouldn't you just love to have a photo or video clip of the newly dug grave site with those white roses sitting on top of the mound of earth as the "cherry on top" of your heart strings tugging story. It would have been a snap to make a phone call and have that done. Carson, CA is a city in LA County 18 miles south of downtown LA. Surely either espn, cbs or si could have easily produced that in a couple of hours. Hell, I could actually call a friend in LA right this minute and have that photo and/or video clip on my computer in an hour. But no one involved would dare do anything which might possibly blemish this perfect little story because they liked it just the way it was. Hard to believe these are the best and brightest news journalists in the country. Woodward and Bernstein? These guys should be writing soap operas for daytime television.

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  • WDEMusicCityMH said...

    Phillip, The Teo, Newton, and Honey Badger stories are exactly why I appreciate the work you and Brian do. Thank you for being reporters. Journalism today has turned into telling people what they should think (whether in sports, politics, etc.) rather than reporting facts and letting others form an opinion of their own. (I won't mention any names, but one in sports that rhymes with Devin Starbinski comes to minds.) I hope the trend of producing propaganda over true reporting is not being taught in journalism schools, but it seems to be an ever-increasing trend to be by chance. Thank you for what you do.

    Not to nit-pick but Kevin Scarbinsky writes a sports column, his objective being to entertain, give his opinions and stir up emotions so people will buy more newspapers. He's not a reporter.

    I agree with you totally that the reporters involved in this fiasco care much more about promoting a story line supporting their underlying beliefs than reporting the truth no matter wher it takes them. I'm sure if Phillip had been a reporter on this story it would have ended before it began because "old school" journalism procedures are ingrained in him.

    As many of us have proclaimed frequently in the past, the reason most of us belong to this site is because of Phillip's integrity, investigative and writing skills and journalism ethics and morals. Phillip's "old school" and most of us are, too or, at least have an appreciation of someone doing the job of reporting correctly. As well as also writing entertaining pieces.

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  • TrojanTiger said...

    I cared about as much about Notre Dame as I did about Bama this year. I never even heard the story until I overheard a guy talking about it yesterday.

    People lie and they live in dream worlds. Something about that reeks of Penn State when a university covers so blatantly for a star football guy.

    Trojan Tiger, "you are so right". The truly preverse thing about this mercifully past "big one" was the excessive tonnage of hipe. You are right on about PSU and the Al Pachino movie role, glorifing Joe Pa. Like another god, in these parts, he was only "a damn good college football coach", period. They and many others clearly got carried away in the adulation. The "Love Bowl" has finally been played and one team was badly exposed (like the national media expected of AU in 2010). Let's move on to the next season, with some resolve to keep things in perspective.

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