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Linebackers

  • We have a great class and these coaches have put Auburn in front of kids we would never have been in front of before.....but how in the haale do WE NOT SIGN high profile backers?? We need some and we can sell pt.

    mrsumaub

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    robertogburn

  • This seem to be an avoided topic on this board. A lot of overly optimistic viewpoints on LBs in my opinion. Where are th Takeo Spikes, Curt Crains, Greg Carrs, Quenton Riggins, Karlos Dansbys, Dontarrius Thomas', Travis Williams', Marcella Mostellas, Alex Lincolns, etc. Just think about those names people!!! They just don't exist on our roster. LBs are generally the top tacklers on a team. Strength at that position is what has made D a strength for many years at AU. Until we face that and address it with successful recruiting, we'll be wondering why our D is not in the top tier for the SEC.

    kverm1

  • kverm1 said...

    This seem to be an avoided topic on this board. A lot of overly optimistic viewpoints on LBs in my opinion. Where are th Takeo Spikes, Curt Crains, Greg Carrs, Quenton Riggins, Karlos Dansbys, Dontarrius Thomas', Travis Williams', Marcella Mostellas, Alex Lincolns, etc. Just think about those names people!!! They just don't exist on our roster. LBs are generally the top tacklers on a team. Strength at that position is what has made D a strength for many years at AU. Until we face that and address it with successful recruiting, we'll be wondering why our D is not in the top tier for the SEC.

    I agree 100%. We only signed two LBs this year. But I think they are elite to be honest. We just needed one more LB. The class is good but right now our LB corp is not very good and people need to admit that. With CVG coming in I am sure there will be improvments but our LB corp are sub par. The RS fresh coming in hopefully will show what kind of talent we have but we really wont know until next year.

    AUtigerNOLA

  • I really think coach BVG will have a huge impact recruiting next year. Actually, he's going to have to have a huge impact. If not, we're going to have to go back to outscoring everyone like 2010.

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    DeltaTiger

  • kverm1 said...

    This seem to be an avoided topic on this board. A lot of overly optimistic viewpoints on LBs in my opinion. Where are th Takeo Spikes, Curt Crains, Greg Carrs, Quenton Riggins, Karlos Dansbys, Dontarrius Thomas', Travis Williams', Marcella Mostellas, Alex Lincolns, etc. Just think about those names people!!! They just don't exist on our roster. LBs are generally the top tacklers on a team. Strength at that position is what has made D a strength for many years at AU. Until we face that and address it with successful recruiting, we'll be wondering why our D is not in the top tier for the SEC.

    Sorry, but D-line is the ball game. In 2004, we went 13-0 with linebackers: T. Williams, A. Williams, and Kevin Sears, hardly a murderers row. But our D-Line was so stout that Stanley McClover and Quinton Groves came of the bench. Signing 2 D lineman is the most troubling part of the class IMO. Also, I don't think Alex Lincoln belongs on the same list as NFL all pros like Spikes and Dansby; he wasn't near their level.

    Bigdaddy36830

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    tinslje

  • We signed two 4 star LB's pending on the recruiting site this season. We play a 4-3, just remember. We have happened to sign a new Linebacker Coach who also is a defensive coordinator who is known for developing talent and evaluating high school talent. So it would make more sense for me to see what he does with the 9 scholarship linebackers that we have and who he goes after next year, remember he doesn't care about stars before you all get excited next year: Pollack and Davis were 2 stars I believe. By the way Trey Johnson has a good chance of being a 5 star next year......Seems to me this issue has been addressed if you pay attention and think about it a little.

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    aubbieinwisky

  • Bigdaddy36830 said...

    Sorry, but D-line is the ball game. In 2004, we went 13-0 with linebackers: T. Williams, A. Williams, and Kevin Sears, hardly a murderers row. But our D-Line was so stout that Stanley McClover and Quinton Groves came of the bench. Signing 2 D lineman is the most troubling part of the class IMO. Also, I don't think Alex Lincoln belongs on the same list as NFL all pros like Spikes and Dansby; he wasn't near their level.

    I guess you're right about Alex Lincoln. He was only 1st team all SEC. As far as Dline, it is not an either or issue. We can't be a great D without strength at both positions.

    This post was edited by kverm1 on 2/1/2012 at 8:59 PM

    kverm1

  • Remember that Dontarius Thomas was a two star.
    Not even Georgia recruited him.

    ArchtheDuke

  • OP has a valid point actually. It's been a mystery to me why AU has been unable to snag a couple more big time LBs in the last few years. Frost was big, but other than that, no real hosses. Thinking VanGorder will change that.

    brierpatch

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    kverm1

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    Fearless And True

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    jadennis

  • Bigdaddy36830 said...

    Sorry, but D-line is the ball game. In 2004, we went 13-0 with linebackers: T. Williams, A. Williams, and Kevin Sears, hardly a murderers row. But our D-Line was so stout that Stanley McClover and Quinton Groves came of the bench. Signing 2 D lineman is the most troubling part of the class IMO. Also, I don't think Alex Lincoln belongs on the same list as NFL all pros like Spikes and Dansby; he wasn't near their level.

    For me, I am always happy and proud to watch guys go on to successful NFL careers, but you can group these guys together on how they relate to Auburn football.

    To steal a scene from "The Replacements", Gene Hackman's character talks about heart.

    Woman Reporter: (Running to catch up with McGinty heading to the locker room for halftime) Coach, what will Washington need to get back into this game?
    Jimmy McGinty: (pause) You've got to have heart.
    Woman Reporter: Can you elaborate?
    Jimmy McGinty: (striking his chest with his roll of papers) Miles and miles of heart.
    Woman Reporter: (comes to a halt) So with a word, Coach McGinty says Washington will need to have heart to get back into this ball game.

    That's what I saw from these guys at Auburn, and all I want to see from future guys at Auburn. Not all those guys were the same talent level or destined for the NFL, but they all played with pride for themselves and the university.

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    MKnBham

  • Sure, I wanted all those high profile recruits today, especially Goldman, but it's not a travesty we didn't' get them and here is why.

    We still have a few guys left and are sitting on 20 commits right now. I say we get one more, but two are real possibilities. So our options here are 5 if we land no more, 4 if we land one, and 3 if we land two in this recruiting cycle.....of additional players we can sign early next year. I don't know if you have looked ahead at 2013, as I realize it's still VERY early, but there are at least two STUD LB in that class. One is already committed and Foster is really looking hard. Not only that, the talent level is going to be considerably higher in our traditional recruiting grounds. Wait and see next year, if we don't have a stellar class. These guys we signed for coordinators will have a full year and we won't have to face the gauntlet like we did this year.

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    auman365

  • kverm1 said...

    I guess you're right about Alex Lincoln. He was only 1st team all SEC. As far as Dline, it is not an either or issue. We can't be a great D without strength at both positions.

    What year was Lincoln all-sec? I don't remembr that.

    Bigdaddy36830

  • 2000. He was extremely smart, a beast, one of the most productive LBs we've had in 20 years and was listed by Mel Kiper as one of the top ILB draft prospects coming out of college. I know him personally. He still works with pro and college athletes to enhance performance and is widely regarded.

    kverm1

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    AUVTM

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    zeb19