In partnership with CBSSports.com
The place for Tiger fans to talk football, basketball and recruiting
The place for Tiger fans to talk about everything Auburn and not!
Buy and sell your Auburn Tiger tickets here.
You have no favorite boards.
The most viewed topics.
The most replied to topics.
The most up-voted topics.
The most down-voted topics.
The most up-voted posters.
The most down-voted posters.
The most followed posters.
Think about it.
There's been all sorts of 'leaked' info re: Jimbo to AU. "His wife loved it at AU and is pressuring him to consider going back", "He's not that happy at FSU", "He's dreamed of being an SEC HC", "He's pissed off a bunch of the money men at FSU and they wouldn't mind seeing him go", "Several prominent AU boosters are supporting his hiring."
Perhaps all of the above is true. Or perhaps something else is happening. Why do I think so?
Q: Who is Jimbo's agent?
A: Jimmy Sexton.
Q: What has been his modus operandi regarding coaching rumors, especially those involving AU?
A: Create a stir through the media, message boards, and 'insiders' that one of his clients is (a) thinking about leaving his current job, (b) being hotly pursued by another school, or (c) both.
Q: What is the usual outcome in the process?
A: Sometimes, the school courting the Sexton client makes an outrageous offer and the HC jumps ship (i.e., Saban in 2007)...but more frequently, the HC in question uses the 'interest' from another school and renegotiates his current deal (i.e., Tubs in 2004 and 2007). Occasionally when the latter happens, Sexton persuades the jilted school to consider another one of his clients. Best example of this was our own situation in '08: Muschamp was rumored to be the man, he got Texas to commit to a lucrative "HC in waiting" arrangement, and we hired another Sexton client instead - Chizik (which reminds me - Chiz dropped Sexton, either right before or right after he got the AU job. I've always been curious as to how and why that occurred. I have my own theories, but I'd love to know what REALLY happened).
Q: In the event that Sexton is using Jimbo as a classic "bait-and-switch", just like he did with Muschamp four years ago, who would be the most likely 'fall-back' amongst his client base?
A: Hint: Which one of his clients has SEC experience, is rumored to be close to one of the AU BOT, and is currently 'between employment engagements'????
This post was edited by FearlessFreep 20 months ago
He is playing us like a fiddle for a raise.
Hope not but have to say your arguments are hard to deny.
"I've seen some coaches lose with good players. I haven't seen anybody win without them." Rhett Lashlee
I think more of it has to do with us pretty much knowing that Chiz was on his way out early. I don't think there has been any real talks with any coach. Has there been boosters that have talked to the coaches camps? I'm sure. I think at this point though the fans on message boards are way ahead of where our admin is at. Petrino is the only one we can talk to somewhat since he isn't employed. Right now there's not a lot of positives for us to talk about. We want to so we are talking about coaches we could possibly get. I think us talking is way ahead of where our admin is though.
What Phillip said is the key.
Most of this stuff comes from people familiar with Jimbo.
They just know him, or have known him, and know that he has always considered Auburn a place he'd like to be. There is no denying that his wife is from Alabama and (if I remember correctly) even went to Auburn (?). Until he does get a raise, we clearly would pay him more (the Auburn staff makes something like $1.6 million more than the FSU staff).
While there are lots of clear benefits to Fisher and Sexton if Auburn pursues him, there is also a lot of clear logic to thinking he would be an Auburn target. I don't think Sexton has to put that out there for it to be a rumor. It's a natural assumption because of his past, his wife, etc.
And really....didn't you think Jimbo would be a consideration? I know I did, and I don't think either of us thought it because we read it on a message board somewhere or stumbled across a far fetched rumor.
I thought it because he just seems like a natural target given the details surrounding him.
This post was edited by jadennis 20 months ago
If AU wants Jimbo Fisher, they'll get him. Sexton really doesn't care where his percentage comes from.
I realized that Phillip. I also remember that you were one of the very few who were adamant in your belief that Muschamp was NOT getting the AU job back in '08, which solidified your credibility in my eyes.
That said, I think Sexton manipulated the hiring process to his clients' advantage back in '08, and I suspect that the Jimbo chatter, including your personal knowledge, maybe an attempt at the same.
I'd love to hear your insight into the whole Chizik/Sexton thing. Here's a Scarbo article from December '08 that mentions Chiz dropping Sexton as an agent at AU's insistence. It also includes some of the original contract terms - I remember the only reassuring things that came out of the hiring at the time were that Sexton was out of the picture, the contract was on the low end and heavily weighted with performance incentives, and that there was NO buyout provision. Looks like the BCSC blew all that practicality and common sense out of the water...
Gene Chizik said it the day he was introduced as Auburn's head football coach. He said it after his formal introduction, as he answered questions in a more casual setting for a circle of reporters. He said, Easy for him to say after accepting a job that's expected to almost double his annual income to about $2 million a year, but there's no reason to dispute him and more than one reason to believe him. At Auburn's insistence, Chizik didn't use his agent, Jimmy Sexton, to negotiate a preliminary letter of agreement outlining the general terms of the deal. That's almost unheard of for new coaches at major programs. In addition, it appears that Chizik has cut ties with Sexton, although their working relationship was barely two years old. Auburn AD Jay Jacobs said Chizik didn't talk about money before he accepted the job, except to ask for a raise above his Iowa State salary, because to take a new position without a bump would make him look foolish. Auburn has yet to release specific salary terms, but Jacobs did say that Chizik's contract will be heavy on incentives. The more he accomplishes, the...
And here's a piece on Chizik's original contract terms in 2008. It's plainly obvious Sexton had nothing to do with this deal:
Auburn University Sports, As goes Auburn, so go the extra zeroes in Gene Chiziks bank account.
You're missing the point: which do you think Sexton would rather have: AU hiring Jimbo away, with the possibility that a non-Sexton client ends up at FSU, or the Noles giving Jimbo a huge raise and AU hiring one of Sexton's unemployed HCs?
Again, who do you think Sexton would push on AU in the eventuality of FSU retaining Jimbo's services?
Another hint: the Yella Fella allegedly has this HC on his speed dial....
J. Ranes seems to be the one pushing for Jimbo not Petrino.
That makes my nightmare scenario even more plausible.
We'll see... I still think we are about a month and a half from finding out for sure.
How exactly can Sexton, or any agent, "push on AU" to hire someone or not hire someone?
I know Sexton is known to float names out there at job openings to try to get top dollar for his clients, but I think you're giving him way too much credit and implying he has power and control over things that he has no power or control over.
It's one thing to float rumors out there, but he can't "push" Auburn to hire or not hire anyone.
He can try to convince Jimbo that staying at FSU is best and that he can get him X amount more money in a new deal there....but a major college football coach is going to go where he wants to go, not where the agent pushes him so that the agent can then get one of his other clients that same job instead.
By the way, who is the other Sexton client that would be "pushed" to Auburn?
Not sure but Russ Campbell out of B'ham reps CBP.
Kids, (a) Changing speeds is more important than a curve ball (b) you play defense with your feet & (c) Wayne Hancock is the tits.
And if Yella Fella had his way last time we'd be talking about firing Houston Nutt instead of Gene Chizik today.
Exactly, that's what I was getting at as well.
Sexton would have to be playing no both sides to even attempt to manipulate that kind of game.
But he's not Petrino's agent.
Jimbo's name is out there for the same reason Petrino's is out there....a lot of Auburn folks naturally thought of him when it became apparent we were the worst Auburn team since 1950. Neither guy's name needed to be planted.
and if he's talking about H. Nutt I'm going to stick a paperclip in my eardrum.
Surely a guy that was fired TWICE in the last five years from SEC West programs wouldn't be on our list. Right?
I know its OT but jd - did a really hot chick from the No Shelby county area do your kid's pics in your sig?
I used to work with a extremely massively hot chick whop got into photography and her stuff looks alot like that. She;s actually very very good.
And again, hottest chick in America, hell, north america.
Your post is useless without pics.
My pics are courtesy of my hot wife (hot to me anyway), who is also a photographer...but she's from Texas (which is why I live out here).
Perhaps my concern stems from the fact that in 2008, when talk of firing Tubs began to simmer, it was rumored that a certain BOT member called Nutt; once Tubs "resigned", Spurrier was approached; Fisher rumors popped up for awhile; then Muschamp was all but hired; finally, we ended up with Chizik.
Every name in the paragraph above, including Tuberville, was a Sexton client. I'm sure it was merely coincidence.
247Sports In partnership with CBS Sports