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Program history: Auburn, Florida, Oregon

  • I've seen in quite a few places where it's referenced that this is a non-traditional title game because it's Auburn and Oregon, not Texas and Alabama or Ohio State and Florida.

    I can admit that Auburn is not one of the following programs on an all-time, historical note: Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, Alabama, or Penn State.

    But in the next group, Auburn is right near the top, along with Tennessee, Florida State, Florida, Georgia, etc.

    Oregon? Not even on the same continent. I recently wrote an email to a writer who made such a reference (Auburn/Oregon = non-traditional power, Florida = traditional power). So I wrote a cordial email giving some facts that he may not have been aware of that shows Auburn is much more comparable to a Florida, historically, than an Oregon.

    Here are some of those comparisons....

    Quick facts about AU -
    One of 13 programs with 700 wins
    One of ONLY 10 programs with 700 wins and 20 bowl wins

    Bowl records and winning %
    Oregon: 9-14 (#40 winning %)
    Florida: 18-19 (#26 winning %)
    Auburn: 20-13-2 (#6 winning %)

    All-time wins and winning %
    Oregon: 578-470-46 (#43 in wins, #58 in winning %)
    Florida: 661-379-40 (#23 in wins, #17 in winning %)
    Auburn: 709-400-47 (#13 in wins, #16 in winning %)

    Number of seasons with 8+ wins
    Oregon: 19
    Florida: 34
    Auburn: 41

    Number of seasons with 9+ wins
    Oregon: 14
    Florida: 24
    Auburn: 25

    Number of seasons with 10+ wins
    Oregon: 6
    Florida: 12
    Auburn: 12

    Number of undefeated seasons (minimum 7 games)
    Oregon: 2*
    Florida: 0
    Auburn: 9*

    Finishes in the Top 25 AP Poll
    Oregon: 12
    Florida: 34
    Auburn: 36

    Finishes in the Top 15 AP Poll
    Oregon: 5
    Florida: 24
    Auburn: 26

    Finishes in the Top 10 AP Poll
    Oregon: 5
    Florida: 16
    Auburn: 17

    Record VS teams in the top 20 of all-time wins**
    Oregon: 37-74 (.333 winning %)
    Florida: 163-187-16 (.467 winning %)
    Auburn: 196-190-18 (.507 winning %)

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  • jadennis said... (original post)

    recently wrote an email to a writer who made such a reference (Auburn/Oregon = non-traditional power, Florida = traditional power). So I wrote a cordial email giving some facts that he may not have been aware of that shows Auburn is much more comparable to a Florida, historically, than an Oregon.

    Did you get a reply?

  • Not this time. I have in the past, but not on this one.

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  • jadennis said... (original post)

    Not this time. I have in the past, but not on this one.

    Understandably so...you made blender fluid out his, so-called references...

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  • Great work, JA! You're pushing for a job as AUC statistician!

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  • Not to mention Auburn has had Florida's number the past decade with impressive wins over the Gators. I was at the 2007 game in the Swamp when AU beat the defending champion Gators on a last second field goal from Wes Byrum. It was the best AU away game I have ever been to and the experience landed in my top 5 college weekends during my tenure at AU.

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  • My email actually was to Ivan. He's written me back a few times in the past, but I'm sure he was flooded with Auburn fan emails and simply doesn't have time to read them all.

    I've read most of what he's written in the last 5-7 years, and he's typically a fair, Auburn-respecting kind of guy. Sometimes he let's a story influence him too much and he ignores a few details so that the story works better....common sin of a writer.

    I started my email noting that I understand who Auburn is and who Auburn isn't. I explained that I wasn't a Clemson fan who doesn't know their place. But then I followed with...

    "But I also understand that Auburn owns winning records over those delusional Clemson fans (34-11-2), as well as Tennessee (27-21-3), Georgia (54-52-8), Florida (42-38-2), and Florida St (13-4-1...5-4 vs Bowden), and a better record against Alabama (34-40-1) than anyone else in the SEC".

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  • A note on Penn State....

    I almost left them off that list, but really, they are #6 on the all-time wins with 819, as well as #3 in bowl wins with 27, and #1 in bowl-win-% with a 27-13-2 record.

    Those 27 bowl wins include 3 Cotton Bowls (1948, 72, 75), 3 Rose Bowls (1923, 95, 09), 5 Orange Bowls (1969, 70, 74, 86, 06), and 4 Sugar Bowls (1972, 75, 79, 83), and includes wins over Alabama (1959), Texas (1972, 97), LSU (1974, 09), Ohio St (1980), USC (1982), Georgia (1983), Miami (1987), Tennessee (1992, 94, 07), Auburn (1996), Florida St (2006).

    They also have 17-17 record against the SEC, as well as huge winning records against all other conferences (and 9-9-1 against Notre Dame).

    And lastly, here are the career records of the 8 coaches (spanning 1904 to 1965) that preceded JoePa...
    33-17-1
    5-2-1
    28-9-4
    20-8
    65-30-11
    91-57-11
    5-4
    104-48-4

    That's a .658 winning % for the 61 years preceding Joe Paterno. Anyway, considering all of that, and that Penn State didn't just storm on to the scene in the last couple decades, I figured I would pay them respect. 107k seat stadium helps too.

    This post was edited by jadennis 4 years ago

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  • jadennis said... (original post)

    I've seen in quite a few places where it's referenced that this is a non-traditional title game because it's Auburn and Oregon, not Texas and Alabama or Ohio State and Florida.

    I can admit that Auburn is not one of the following programs on an all-time, historical note: Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, Alabama, or Penn State.

    But in the next group, Auburn is right near the top, along with Tennessee, Florida State, Florida, Georgia, etc.

    Oregon? Not even on the same continent. I recently wrote an email to a writer who made such a reference (Auburn/Oregon = non-traditional power, Florida = traditional power). So I wrote a cordial email giving some facts that he may not have been aware of that shows Auburn is much more comparable to a Florida, historically, than an Oregon.

    Here are some of those comparisons....

    Quick facts about AU - One of 13 programs with 700 wins One of ONLY 10 programs with 700 wins and 20 bowl wins

    Bowl records and winning % Oregon: 9-14 (#40 winning %) Florida: 18-19 (#26 winning %) Auburn: 20-13-2 (#6 winning %)

    All-time wins and winning % Oregon: 578-470-46 (#43 in wins, #58 in winning %) Florida: 661-379-40 (#23 in wins, #17 in winning %) Auburn: 709-400-47 (#13 in wins, #16 in winning %)

    Number of seasons with 8+ wins Oregon: 19 Florida: 34 Auburn: 41

    Number of seasons with 9+ wins Oregon: 14 Florida: 24 Auburn: 25

    Number of seasons with 10+ wins Oregon: 6 Florida: 12 Auburn: 12

    Number of undefeated seasons (minimum 7 games) Oregon: 2* Florida: 0 Auburn: 9*

    Finishes in the Top 25 AP Poll Oregon: 12 Florida: 34 Auburn: 36

    Finishes in the Top 15 AP Poll Oregon: 5 Florida: 24 Auburn: 26

    Finishes in the Top 10 AP Poll Oregon: 5 Florida: 16 Auburn: 17

    Record VS teams in the top 20 of all-time wins** Oregon: 37-74 (.333 winning %) Florida: 163-187-16 (.467 winning %) Auburn: 196-190-18 (.507 winning %)

    good stuff, jadennis...+1 for you.