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Roots of Auburn's struggles in baseball, basketball may date to year of change in 2004
Although Evan Woodbery hasn't changed his tone or been moved to the Alabama beat where he belongs, he at least no longer pretends to be objective.
How has Auburn fallen so far in sports that were once regularly competitive and sometimes stellar?
What's with this clown. 2004 we're talking almost 10 years ago.
Phillip it's also a fact that the majority of Auburn fans want him gone. That's all that should matter. If the readers don't support their beat writer this passionately, what's the point in him being there? Can you really deny that he is extremely negatives in his views of everything Auburn? Forget that he is your friend for a second....What did you think of his article today, and the timing of it after Big Cat (which he did not cover)?
Started at the bottom, now we here.....better get used to it.
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What do you mean you wouldnt fire someone because fans of ONE school want him gone? You act like he is just a sports journalist. The fans of the ONE school that want him gone just happen to be the ONE school he is supposed to cover. Does it not matter that his primary audience, HIS supposed target customers, do NOT want him? Give me a break Phillip.
NTYF is accomplishing their objective. Call it anti-journalism or whatever you want but they are honest in what they are trying to do. Who cares if they are anonymous, its a BLOG not a newspaper and at this point they have more fans than Woodberry does. As a former editor, I would think you would understand the significance of that.
Phillip, I feel like you're on the wrong side of the fence on this one. That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but I'd say 90% of AU fans disagree with you. Auburn is trying to move forward and on the verge of signing another top ten class, just finishing up their biggest recruiting event of the year, and this clown drags up something from 2004, a really bad time in AU history.
I'm sorry but how can you call it a "vote". These are the customers we are talking about. The READERS. In any profession, if the core customers are this unhappy with an employees performance, then no he is not doing a good job and yes he deserves to be fired. Phillip, you are coming dangerously close to implying that it doesn't really matter what the readers, fans, subscriber, etc think as long as your peers or fellow media members think you're doing a good job.
This will be my v ery first (and probably last) post but in all honesty, I can't see how you can justify the writings of this "beat writer" and the attitude in general of the Birmingham, Mobile, and Huntsville newspapers. In my unprofessional opinion, they don't even attempt to be fair and objective. I like just about everything you write but in all respect, I just can't accept your defense of Evan Woodberry. Incidentally, I don't know the gentleman and will probably never meet him but I feel that at the very best, he does his best to paint Auburn in a very bad light.
The day journalists are hired or fired because of what the fans of any team want is the day journalism will lose all credibility.
I actually agree with Phillip on this. Evan may not write about all sunshine and flowers with Auburn, but when he writes a story he at least gets his facts straight.
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"Some guys were popular and some weren't. Not one ever was fired because he wasn't." I would add "nor should they be." I can't imagine a worse or more dangerous policy for a newspaper to follow. Can you imagine a situation back in the 1950s if a writer for a newspaper in the state of Alabama wrote an editorial suggesting that segregation was unjust and ought to be ended, I dare say that a lot of customers would call for that writer's firing. Should said newspaper fire him just because 90 % of the readers wanted him fired? That would be a very dangerous policy for a newspaper to follow.
Exactly. Evan does a great job, is a true professional and these attacks on him are absurd. If I was al.com, I would give him a raise and sign him to a long-term deal.
In the newspaper profession whether or not the "core customers are unhappy with an employees performance has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he is doing a good job. In the newspaper business it might even be an indication that he is doing a good job.
NTYF needs to vote with their dollars and just don't buy the paper.
You are acting like he writes political pieces for the New York Times. He's a beat writer. He covers ONE school. The fans for that ONE school hate him and want him gone. I have no idea what that has done to their numbers as far as subscriptions, or hits on their website. Probably increased it unfortunately. But to me that's not an indication he's doing a good job, that's an indication of what our society has become and probably also an indication that bama fans are enjoying his work more than Auburn fans are. To me, yeah it DOES matter what the reader's opinion of him is. He's not some investigative journalist, he's a damn beat writer.
I'm sorry, I thought he wrote for a newspaper. Call him a "beat writer" or whatever you want to call him. He writes for a newspaper. He is a journalist. One doesn't have to write "political pieces for the New York Times" to be a journalist. You can attach the word "damn" to it all you want but that doesn't change the fact that he is a journalist.
pfft, guy is a hack. Pretty transparent his primary role is to draw interest from both sides of the rivalry with negative journalism. Doesn't take much to rehash stories from the past. Everything else is just recaps of minor sports you could write from looking up game logs online. An interview or an original story once in awhile wouldn't hurt.
I mean the only reason to tie everything to 04 is to bring up SACs and the "clandestine" trip. Because that year is completely irrelevant to the current state of our major sports programs.
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