In partnership with CBSSports.com
Online Now 2300
Online now 878 Record: 9788 (12/4/2012)
The place for Tiger fans to talk football, basketball and recruiting
The place for Tiger fans to talk about everything Auburn and not!
Buy and sell your Auburn Tiger tickets here.
You have no favorite boards.
The most viewed topics.
The most replied to topics.
The most up-voted topics.
The most down-voted topics.
The most up-voted posters.
The most down-voted posters.
The most followed posters.
Good God, I'm so sick of this whining about what the coaches are doing and people acting like they know more than the coaches. One freakin' hard fought loss against probably the most wide open/fast offense we will face, not the end of the world.
Some of the posters need to grow a pair.
"you're so vain, I'll bet you think this post is about you, don't you? Don't you?"
"There's no doubt, we're going up."
I'll 2nd that. I have never seen such a bunch of so called fans who think they have all this inside inside info and who think they know more about what the needs of the team are than some on here. My God - Grow up or go away. If you ain't happy with what Chizik is doing then go over to the dark side and quit bitching and thinking you are God's gift to football. Besides if you were God's gift to football the you would teh one making all the money and making all the "bad" decisions. But guess what - you ain't!
Shsssshh. I saw a converted WR start at QB last night for Cinncinnati U....complete 14-28 for 205 yards (almost 15 yards a catch) and beat the crap out of Pittsburgh U. Athletes at this level should be able to play more than one position.
Remember: If The Jury Box Is Stacked With Foxes...The Chickin Is Always Guilty
The real questions is....when does Jacobs realize you and faulkner should be running the program. With all the difference makers that our current staff is overlooking, you guys could have us in a BCS bowl in no time.
Now I don't know the guy personally. At best I've shook his hand a couple of times. But I've read his book and listened to most of his press conferences and my read on Coach Chizik is that if a player made the threat to let him have his way or he would transfer, the reply would be don't let the door hit your butt as you go out and there would be no chance of a release. That's the reply of a man who does not hesitate to suspend a vital member of the team just before a major game for passing out drunk in public.
But I can see the coach letting the kid who shows a lot of potential have a chance in front of his hometown folks.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by wcmcp 19 months ago
Wow. I can remember when it was never acceptable to publicly criticize any Auburn player. It seems quite a few have forgotten that and have strayed far from that practice. It is very sad.
That made me laugh. "Small balls"...hahaha.
I think what most people have an issue with....or maybe I should say what I take issue with....is the attitude in which it's done. I have seen plenty of people question coaching moves without all the protests from fellow board members. Usually if the questioning comes with the implication that we simply don't know the answer, not many people get irritated.
For example...."we seemed to be running the ball well against Clemson....why on earth did we throw it 27 times when the passing game wasn't working and the running game was? We could have worn them out and pounded out another TD I think".
That is questioning what the coaches did, but it's not implying that we know the answer to the question we ask. It's saying, "I'd sure like to know why....blah, blah, blah".
However, we seem to be getting a lot of what you call "questioning" from some posters that actually isn't questioning at all. Instead, these posters are making definitive statements. They are statements of bold absolutes that are spoken from a position of apparent authority on matters on which they have no authority.
That's what gets to me, and I'm sure what gets to quite a few others. It really has nothing to do with "questioning" things, it's more about the fact that too many seem to be offering what they feel are clear-cut answers, not questions.
There is a big difference, and I think you can see that "questions" and "statements" get very different responses.
This post was edited by jadennis 19 months ago
ON TO VICTORY - STRIKE UP THE BAND
I think I speak for all frustrated persons who are tired of trusting the coaches to field a legit secondary with marginal talent...
Gene Chizik has final say over the depth chart, and has since he has been our coach starting in 2009. During the 2010 and 2011 seasons, our secondary was filled with veteran players who were not very highly thought of by other college coaches or recruiting websites (for one reason or another) as HS recruits, and our pass defenses were soft, we frequently gave up tons of yards through the air, we missed tackles, and we haven't had a single DB step up to be a "shutdown guy" or "difference maker". 2010, our secondary was our glaring weakness that people exploited on a regular basis. 2011, we lost our difference maker on the DL and a tough-as-nails MLB, and we proceed to field the worst statistical defense in our program's entire history.
The 2011 class comes and we sign 4 DBs that were highly coveted by just about every college coach in America, with two of them considered to be the two hardest hitters in the entire class. Fans' expectations become raised and we feel like we are adding playmakers who are also vicious tacklers to our secondary. Problems with poor secondary play that have plagued our teams and frustrated our fanbase seem to be on the verge of gone.
2012 rolls around, we hire a proven NFL/SEC DC and we read reports of one of these young guys being fast, incredibly athletic, very physical, and intercepting passes in scrimmages. He is running with the first-team defense as late as two weeks before the first game. Excitement to see him busting heads on the field and intercepting passes is warranted, since we haven't had anything close to that since Chizik has been here.
Instead, a couple weeks before the first game, we here the young guy gets banged up but is expected back soon. Then, the depth chart comes out, and he is nowhere to be found. In his place, are a bevy of the same players from 2011's unit who haven't been getting it done for us the past few seasons. Understandably, everyone is asking "WTH happened?!"
Clemson game happens, we struggle again mightily in the defensive backfield, our starters look slow, mental mistakes are made, tackles are missed (some are "missed") and zero positive difference-making plays are made by our secondary once again. It's easy to understand why some people have had about enough of the "reasons" for why we haven't been getting it done on the field but still refuse to attempt personnel changes.
To this point, if you haven't been seriously questioning the decision-making ability of our staff, especially with regards to the defense, you haven't been watching us play the past few years.
This post was edited by faulkner41 19 months ago
That's why we focus on opinions of the knowledgable
kick 'em in the ass, big blue.
Most of what you listed is historical fact...and I was no less disappointed with things than you watching those defenses.
But let's look at a couple things. First....we've played one game. One game.
Do you know what Georgia's defense was ranked in Van Gorder's third year there? They were the #4 defense in the nation. The pass defense? #6 in the nation. Do you know what they were ranked his second year there? #15 in the nation, #31 in pass defense. But do you know what they were ranked his FIRST year there? They were the #49 defense, and the #96 pass defense in the nation.
It took him three years to go from #96 in pass defense to #6. And right now, you're combining ONE game....a single game under Van Gorder to the two years before he got here. Give the guy a chance. It's not like he hasn't done this before. Give the young guys time to gain his trust and learn his system.
Heading home.....regardless of our opinions, I know we'll all be cheering tomorrow. Hopefully we'll have some happy things to talk about on Monday. WDE!
247Sports In partnership with CBS Sports