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Auburn Is the Villain

  • AURICKB said... (original post)

    Guys, just thank Kenny and Cecil. It is because of their dumbness that Cam is even at AU. If none of this goes down he's at MSU.

    Relax and enjoy the ride!

    If someone cheating (even at another school) is the price of getting Cam to come to Auburn, it's not worth it.

  • Winder said... (original post)

    Does anyone think that Bush was the only player at USC that received benefits?

    Careful -- that is exactly the kind of thinking that leads a lot of people to say, "Oh, come on, do you really think Cam went to Auburn for free if his dad was shopping him at MSU?"

    Bush got his benefits from an agent, and the NCAA found that one of the USC coaches either knew about it or should have known. I would assume that if anyone else was on the take out there, the NCAA would have found out about it during their 4-year investigation. Either way, I'm not willing to assume there was more cheating in the absence of evidence, because I'm sick of everyone doing that to us.

  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    Delta Tiger, This article seems pretty much dead on. I graduated in 1992, so I've seen three truly great Auburn teams in my life: 1983, 1993, and 2004, and a bunch of good ones. But never a national champion. I said to my dad at the beginning of the season that I'd just like to see Auburn win it for once in my lifetime. Well, here they are, and it feels like a good part of the joy has been taken out of it. You know why? Not because of the media (as inaccurate and biased as some of them have been), but because we have a player who's father cheated, which means the player potentially cheated (no matter what the NCAA has found so far). Therefore, all this is tainted. If CN played for anyone else, we Auburn fans would be howling with outrage, too. Glad we're winning, but not if it comes with a price. I'd rather be the Auburn that comes close but never wins it all (and stays clean) than have tainted victories and players.

    Brother 24-7, I don't know about you, but I enjoyed the heck out of the game last night, and I'm going to enjoy this day. And you know what? I'm going to do my best to take my family out to Glendale to enjoy that game, too.

    Let's take a deep breath together...inhale, exhale, repeat. I'm feeling better already, aren't you?

    Tell you what. Come on out to Arizona, enjoy this once in a lifetime opportunity (yes, I would like to experience a National Championship, too... I was a year old in 1957. I don't remember that one).

    Smile. It's great to be an Auburn Tiger!

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  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    What? You're putting words in my mouth? I'm accepting what? You're out of your mind buddy!

    Not only was I there in the 80's it's my home town! AHS grad in 1979 and Auburn University 1983. I was in the second row when Pat Dye was annouced as Auburn head coach. I know more about the blue BMW's and what went on then more than you'll ever know!

    My post was a direct response to your defeatist attitude and the "assumption" that we're all going to pay for this down the road! All on the morning after our young Auburn men just completed one of the finest efforts in Auburn Football history! Piss on your cornflakes another time. THIS day isn't for whinning.

    I don't, NOR DO YOU, know how big a role in all this that Cecil Newton or anyone else has played. We'll all know soon enough. Until then there are enough people ready and actively condemning Auburn without your help. Take your gloom and doom to al.com.

    Amen '67. I can't stand all the 'waiting for the other shoe to drop' kind of crap. I trust our staff. I trust Cam. I don't think Cam needs to go around sulking to prove to this 24-7 clown that he is saddened by his dad. I believe in Auburn and I love it. It's people like Thayer and Evans and the 24-7 type of fans that are trying to put an asterisk on this potential national championship. There won't be one in my book.

  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    Careful -- that is exactly the kind of thinking that leads a lot of people to say, "Oh, come on, do you really think Cam went to Auburn for free if his dad was shopping him at MSU?"

    Bush got his benefits from an agent, and the NCAA found that one of the USC coaches either knew about it or should have known. I would assume that if anyone else was on the take out there, the NCAA would have found out about it during their 4-year investigation. Either way, I'm not willing to assume there was more cheating in the absence of evidence, because I'm sick of everyone doing that to us.

    The question has to be asked. The difference being that Kenny Rogers is a MSU alum and he has (thought he had) the connections at MSU to pull it off. There are no connections at any other program and Rogers was not in contact with any other program. Rogers in the link to this.

    We know money changed hands at USC. There is no evidence money changed hands with Newton. That is a big difference. There is also the factor that Bush knew about the benefits. There are some huge differences between USC/Bush and the Newton saga, and the NCAA obviously sees those differences.

    Bush was a blue-chip player on a team of blue chip players. What are the odds that he was the only one to receive benefits? It is a valid question.
    Kenny Rogers would have to have balls of steel to walk-in and ask for $180,000 dollars for a player from MSU boosters....... unless has worked deals in the past and really thought he could make it happen. Speculation? Yes.

  • Winder said... (original post)

    The question has to be asked. The difference being that Kenny Rogers is a MSU alum and he has (thought he had) the connections at MSU to pull it off. There are no connections at any other program and Rogers was not in contact with any other program. Rogers in the link to this.

    We know money changed hands at USC. There is no evidence money changed hands with Newton. That is a big difference. There is also the factor that Bush knew about the benefits. There are some huge differences between USC/Bush and the Newton saga, and the NCAA obviously sees those differences.

    Bush was a blue-chip player on a team of blue chip players. What are the odds that he was the only one to receive benefits? It is a valid question. Kenny Rogers would have to have balls of steel to walk-in and ask for $180,000 dollars for a player from MSU boosters....... unless has worked deals in the past and really thought he could make it happen. Speculation? Yes.

    I agree with everything you said concerning the differences between the Bush and Newton cases. I just am not willing speculate about others at this point knowing what similar types of speculation are doing to Auburn's reputation right now.

  • Nice name calling, WarEagle! Glad you trust Cam, even though you don't know him. What do you trust? His smile? His throwing ability? His 40 time? His family? Glad you have so much trust in someone who has been on the very verge of zeroing out our season, and discrediting the name of our university...all for one year's playing time. Glad you have so much trust in Cam.

    Listen carefully to my point before you blow too hard too much more. I'm thankful we won. I've been waiting for this game a long, long time, just like the rest of us. I personally think (after years and years of scrutiny) that Auburn has a tight, professional, law-abiding program, and I trust Chizik to do the right thing. However, Cam's dad is guilty of soliciting, and if they at any point in time implicate Cam, then Auburn is, too. I like Cam...he says the right things and plays with a good attitude. It would help for him to make a statement that distances himself from his father's motives other than simply saying, "I've done nothing wrong...if God be blessing, the devil be messing."

    Mississippi Tiger 67, glad you're so informed of the ins-and-outs of the program in the 80s (and appreciate your little pissing contest there: "I know more about the blue BMW's and what went on then more than you'll even know"). If you're so informed, then you know that the program was in fact dirty, like many during that era.

    I don't have a defeatist attitude: I'm just not eager for Auburn to go down because of this, and it'd be nice for Cam (or Chizik for that matter) to say a little more than they have. It wouldn't hurt...they've got a freaking legal team behind them that can craft a statement.

    You rah-rah types can jump in the lake for all I care, because it's supporters like you who wind up getting Auburn in trouble in the first place. I love Auburn. I love the football. But I'm not willing for the football to drag the university down, as apparently you are in your blind naivete. Much as I dislike Thayer Evens, Thamel, etc...they didn't just conjure up this story. It originated with Cam's father having an illegal discussion with people associated with a Division I football program...get it? You better hope (as I do) that not one of those discussions ever happened with a rogue Auburn booster, or even that Cam knew about this.

    I'm not condemning Auburn. They've gone by the book. I'm questioning it's star player, and wanting a little more feedback/info/comment from him. I want this magnificent season to stick, and not be forever tainted by this mess. Get it?

    I'm out. You win. War Eagle anyway.

  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    However, Cam's dad is guilty of soliciting, and if they at any point in time implicate Cam, then Auburn is, too.

    Not true. If Cam is later found to have known about his dad's activities and the NCAA rules him ineligible, the worst thing that will happen to Auburn is that it may have to vacate this season's wins. As long as Auburn did nothing wrong, there will be no infractions case against us and no penalties. Auburn only gets hammered is Auburn did something wrong.

  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    Nice name calling, WarEagle! Glad you trust Cam, even though you don't know him. What do you trust? His smile? His throwing ability? His 40 time? His family? Glad you have so much trust in someone who has been on the very verge of zeroing out our season, and discrediting the name of our university...all for one year's playing time. Glad you have so much trust in Cam.

    Listen carefully to my point before you blow too hard too much more. I'm thankful we won. I've been waiting for this game a long, long time, just like the rest of us. I personally think (after years and years of scrutiny) that Auburn has a tight, professional, law-abiding program, and I trust Chizik to do the right thing. However, Cam's dad is guilty of soliciting, and if they at any point in time implicate Cam, then Auburn is, too. I like Cam...he says the right things and plays with a good attitude. It would help for him to make a statement that distances himself from his father's motives other than simply saying, "I've done nothing wrong...if God be blessing, the devil be messing."

    Mississippi Tiger 67, glad you're so informed of the ins-and-outs of the program in the 80s (and appreciate your little pissing contest there: "I know more about the blue BMW's and what went on then more than you'll even know"). If you're so informed, then you know that the program was in fact dirty, like many during that era.

    I don't have a defeatist attitude: I'm just not eager for Auburn to go down because of this, and it'd be nice for Cam (or Chizik for that matter) to say a little more than they have. It wouldn't hurt...they've got a freaking legal team behind them that can craft a statement.

    You rah-rah types can jump in the lake for all I care, because it's supporters like you who wind up getting Auburn in trouble in the first place. I love Auburn. I love the football. But I'm not willing for the football to drag the university down, as apparently you are in your blind naivete. Much as I dislike Thayer Evens, Thamel, etc...they didn't just conjure up this story. It originated with Cam's father having an illegal discussion with people associated with a Division I football program...get it? You better hope (as I do) that not one of those discussions ever happened with a rogue Auburn booster, or even that Cam knew about this.

    I'm not condemning Auburn. They've gone by the book. I'm questioning it's star player, and wanting a little more feedback/info/comment from him. I want this magnificent season to stick, and not be forever tainted by this mess. Get it?

    I'm out. You win. War Eagle anyway.

    Wow. You thought clown was name calling..? Thin skin for a glass half-empty kind of guy.

    Here's what you've said that I have issue with:
    "I don't want to win a championship with an asterisk beside it. Auburn has worked hard for 20 years to clean this act up. Too hard to let a greedy father drag it down. Glad we won. Yippee. But I don't want the asterisk."

    My point is that the asterisk is coming from what? Cam Newton is eligible. That was made perfectly clear this week from both the NCAA and SEC. You, and folks like you, are putting the asterisk. There is no asterisk unless you put it there. You are complicit in the smear campaign against Cam (not his father) with your attitude, a defeatist attitude. I don't have a defeatist attitude. I trust our coaching staff. I trust that the NCAA has more information than you or I and they made it clear, to me at least, that they have heard Nothing throughout all of this that indicates that either Auburn or Cam did anything wrong. I trust our compliance department, and yes, I trust Cam. No, I don't know him. But I choose to believe him. I have seen nothing in this episode that makes me not trust him. His father, well, different story..

    You also said: "Listen, you may accept that "everyone else does it, so why don't we" mentality, but, as an Auburn Alumnus, I do not. I don't want the crap going on."

    What? Seriously? Where did anyone on here say that everyone does it, so why don't we??? No true Auburn fan believes that. And when you say "I don't want this crap going on" I would agree with you if you're talking about Cecil and various people associated with the MSU program. But it seems like you're actually assuming that Cam or Auburn has done something wrong. Am I right? If not, then why do you say "I don't want this crap going on?" Because, based on the facts as they are known now, NOTHING has gone on at Auburn or with Cam. So this is where you lose me. You seem to be assuming that something did, but that it hasn't been brought to light yet. I do not believe that. If you think that, I can see why you are in your 'asterisk' mode. The NCAA investigation, so far, has exonerated both Auburn and Cam. So as an Auburn family we have two options: Wait for the other shoe to drop (on Cam, and then Auburn), or, have faith in our staff and Cam and enjoy the heck out of a great team and great season. To do the latter does not, by the way, somehow equate to accepting a "if everyone else does it, so why don't we" mentality. I don't believe we (Auburn or Cam) has done anything wrong. If that makes me naive, as you indicated above, so be it. I would rather be naive than defeated. If the facts change later, I'll deal with them later. Right now, Cam Newton is an eligible student-athlete and Auburn is going to be playing for a national championship. Neither you or some yet-to-be-revealed facts you seem sure are going to doom us, are going to stop me from enjoying this season. Hope you are able to enjoy the game in Glendale. If you're going, let me know. I'll buy you a beer, coke, or whatever you'd like :)

  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    My point is that the asterisk is coming from what? Cam Newton is eligible. That was made perfectly clear this week from both the NCAA and SEC. You, and folks like you, are putting the asterisk. There is no asterisk unless you put it there.

    I have to disagree with you. The media got this ball rolling, but the reality at this point is that the majority of the college football world now seems to think that the NCAA ruling in Cam's favor was the wrong thing to do. We can argue till we're blue in the face that the logic leading to such a conclusion is crap, but that's just the way it is.

    Whether we think there is an asterisk or not is pretty much immaterial. Assuming Auburn wins the NC, the asterisk will happen when the major media openly questions the legitimacy of Auburn's accomplishments. It will happen as fans across the country refuse to acknowledge that Auburn won honestly. If a sizable chunk of the college football world refuses to acknowledge the legitimacy of your championship, you have an asterisk.

  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    I have to disagree with you. The media got this ball rolling, but the reality at this point is that the majority of the college football world now seems to think that the NCAA ruling in Cam's favor was the wrong thing to do. We can argue till we're blue in the face that the logic leading to such a conclusion is crap, but that's just the way it is.

    Whether we think there is an asterisk or not is pretty much immaterial. Assuming Auburn wins the NC, the asterisk will happen when the major media openly questions the legitimacy of Auburn's accomplishments. It will happen as fans across the country refuse to acknowledge that Auburn won honestly. If a sizable chunk of the college football world refuses to acknowledge the legitimacy of your championship, you have an asterisk.

    And you are making my point. Just because it's the conventional wisdom, why do we have to go along with this crap? According to the facts that are currently known, neither Auburn nor Cam has done anything wrong. The NCAA has come out and stated such. Cam is eligible. So, while you are correct that the major media and a ton of fans (unfortunately some Auburn fans included..) all "refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of [y]our [potential] championship", that doesn't mean that we have to go along with this 'asterisk' idea and take up this type of defeatist attitude. I will battle the notion that we have to somehow apologize for our season. Unless facts come out vastly different that what is currently known, I will battle the notion that we have done anything wrong. And I will battle the attempts at stealing my joy regarding this season and this football team. War Eagle folks!

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  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    Just because it's the conventional wisdom, why do we have to go along with this crap? According to the facts that are currently known, neither Auburn nor Cam has done anything wrong. The NCAA has come out and stated such. Cam is eligible. So, while you are correct that the major media and a ton of fans (unfortunately some Auburn fans included..) all "refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of [y]our [potential] championship", that doesn't mean that we have to go along with this 'asterisk' idea and take up this type of defeatist attitude. I will battle the notion that we have to somehow apologize for our season. Unless facts come out vastly different that what is currently known, I will battle the notion that we have done anything wrong. And I will battle the attempts at stealing my joy regarding this season and this football team. War Eagle folks!

    I will battle it, too, and am doing so daily (can't tell you how many comments I've posted on other sites and e-mails I've sent to sportswriters).

    That said, my point still stands. O.J. Simpson, you will recall, was found not guilty in a court of law. Yet the public rightly refused to accept the legitimacy of that outcome. So even though he prevailed in court, the public has treated him like a double-murderer ever since.

    Now the obvious difference is that O.J. actually did it, and Auburn is innocent in this situation. But the point is that if the public refuses to accept the "official" ruling, you can't just wish away the tarnish with denial and happy talk.

  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    I will battle it, too, and am doing so daily (can't tell you how many comments I've posted on other sites and e-mails I've sent to sportswriters).

    That said, my point still stands. O.J. Simpson, you will recall, was found not guilty in a court of law. Yet the public rightly refused to accept the legitimacy of that outcome. So even though he prevailed in court, the public has treated him like a double-murderer ever since.

    Now the obvious difference is that O.J. actually did it, and Auburn is innocent in this situation. But the point is that if the public refuses to accept the "official" ruling, you can't just wish away the tarnish with denial and happy talk.

    I'm not trying to wish away anything. I just refuse to concede that we've done anything wrong. The 'public' not accepting the official ruling is one thing. My initial post here was in response to an Auburn person who didn't seem willing to accept it. I would think that at a minimum, the Auburn family would be pulling on the same end of the rope.

    O.J? Wow. Not sure a) how that helps make your point since, well, there are zero similarities, and b) how that particular comparison helps reverse public opinion. I am not willing to concede that we've done anything wrong, and that any potential championship needs an asterisk. I'm not going to apologize if/when we win a championship - not one bit. To go down the defeatist road and to somehow feel guilty about this season is doing nothing but helping to solidify the public opinion against us. Not me. I'm loving this season. I think we have won every game fair and square. All In. War Eagle!

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  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    O.J? Wow. Not sure how a) that helps make your point since, well, there are zero similarities, and b) how that particular comparison helps reverse public opinion.

    Well, I thought I was pretty clear that I was not comparing the two situations from a guilt standpoint. My point, as I said, was that the public is not required to accept the "official" ruling and often doesn't. If, as seems to be the case, the public and the media thinks Auburn's season merits an asterisk, it will have one no matter what the NCAA says.

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  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    Nice name calling, WarEagle! Glad you trust Cam, even though you don't know him. What do you trust? His smile? His throwing ability? His 40 time? His family? Glad you have so much trust in someone who has been on the very verge of zeroing out our season, and discrediting the name of our university...all for one year's playing time. Glad you have so much trust in Cam.

    Listen carefully to my point before you blow too hard too much more. I'm thankful we won. I've been waiting for this game a long, long time, just like the rest of us. I personally think (after years and years of scrutiny) that Auburn has a tight, professional, law-abiding program, and I trust Chizik to do the right thing. However, Cam's dad is guilty of soliciting, and if they at any point in time implicate Cam, then Auburn is, too. I like Cam...he says the right things and plays with a good attitude. It would help for him to make a statement that distances himself from his father's motives other than simply saying, "I've done nothing wrong...if God be blessing, the devil be messing."

    Mississippi Tiger 67, glad you're so informed of the ins-and-outs of the program in the 80s (and appreciate your little pissing contest there: "I know more about the blue BMW's and what went on then more than you'll even know"). If you're so informed, then you know that the program was in fact dirty, like many during that era.

    I don't have a defeatist attitude: I'm just not eager for Auburn to go down because of this, and it'd be nice for Cam (or Chizik for that matter) to say a little more than they have. It wouldn't hurt...they've got a freaking legal team behind them that can craft a statement.

    You rah-rah types can jump in the lake for all I care, because it's supporters like you who wind up getting Auburn in trouble in the first place. I love Auburn. I love the football. But I'm not willing for the football to drag the university down, as apparently you are in your blind naivete. Much as I dislike Thayer Evens, Thamel, etc...they didn't just conjure up this story. It originated with Cam's father having an illegal discussion with people associated with a Division I football program...get it? You better hope (as I do) that not one of those discussions ever happened with a rogue Auburn booster, or even that Cam knew about this.

    I'm not condemning Auburn. They've gone by the book. I'm questioning it's star player, and wanting a little more feedback/info/comment from him. I want this magnificent season to stick, and not be forever tainted by this mess. Get it?

    I'm out. You win. War Eagle anyway.

    .....and yet you STILL pretend that you know my opinion and attitude by grouping me in with a "type" and putting words in my mouth?

    Yeah, you're out.....and can stay there.

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  • Delta, my point to you is that putting us in any comparison with O.J. is not helpful. Or accurate. Crazy in fact. The same with the people everywhere who are comparing our situation with Reggie Bush. Guilt by association. Not helpful. And again, not accurate. You seem resigned to the fact that since public opinion is in a certain (bad) place, that we just have to accept it. I don't. And I think that we all need to battle this public opinion - it can change guys! That's what public opinion does. I refuse to just throw in the towel and let the idiots (not you) win. If we concede, we lose the argument. We have done nothing wrong. We have the best college football staff in the country, bar none. And I believe we have men of integrity on our staff as well. I trust them. I believe that we're winning and doing so fairly. So, again, I will not have my joy stolen by anyone who just concedes that we must have done something wrong and it's just a matter of time before it's uncovered - that's crap! Though unprecedented, I truly hope that the NCAA closes this investigation before the national championship game so that you and all the Auburn family can enjoy that game without the 'asterisk syndrome' that seems way too prevalent. I'm going to either way. All in! War Eagle!

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  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    Delta, my point to you is that putting us in any comparison with O.J. is not helpful. Or accurate. Crazy in fact. The same with the people everywhere who are comparing our situation with Reggie Bush. Guilt by association. Not helpful. And again, not accurate. You seem resigned to the fact that since public opinion is in a certain (bad) place, that we just have to accept it. I don't. And I think that we all need to battle this public opinion - it can change guys! That's what public opinion does. I refuse to just throw in the towel and let the idiots (not you) win. If we concede, we lose the argument. We have done nothing wrong. We have the best college football staff in the country, bar none. And I believe we have men of integrity on our staff as well. I trust them. I believe that we're winning and doing so fairly. So, again, I will not have my joy stolen by anyone who just concedes that we must have done something wrong and it's just a matter of time before it's uncovered - that's crap! Though unprecedented, I truly hope that the NCAA closes this investigation before the national championship game so that you and all the Auburn family can enjoy that game without the 'asterisk syndrome' that seems way too prevalent. I'm going to either way. All in! War Eagle!

    Well I don't think you could honestly read what I have written and and say that I am advocating being meekly "resigned to our fate". As I stated numerous times, we need to fight the good fight on this one. That said, I also think we need to be prepared to accept the fact that, in all likelihood, the die has been cast and there is little we can do to change it.

    I must say, however, that the fact that you still don't understand the O.J. analogy even after I explained it twice is baffling to me. Rather than assuming bad faith on your part, I can only assume that you aren't really reading what I wrote, but are skimming and jumping to conclusions.

  • I'll tell all of you this: I'm not going to sit around wringing my hands for the next 36 days being jerked around by rumor after ridiculous rumor or listen to other, well intentioned Auburn people squabble back and forth. I'm proud to be an Auburn Tiger, I'm very proud of this coaching staff and football team and I enjoyed the game Saturday immensely as much as I have enjoyed all of this season and their incredible accomplishments. I'm going to go to Glendale with other family members where we will have a great time and fully support our team in the BCS Championship game. As I've said previously, I have followed and supported Auburn football for fifty years and I'm not about to let a bunch of faceless internet cowards with myriad agendas ruin it. Win or lose this is the most exciting, courageous Auburn football team I've ever seen that plays, as Coach Dye used to say, "with one heartbeat" If we win, I'll proclaim to my dying day that we won the National Championship on the field for the 2010 football season on January 10, 2011. And, unless some legitimate news regarding Cam surfaces between now and then, I'm finished reading all of this crap.

    Oh, and by the way, Delta Tiger, I agree with you. From now on I will challenge anyone who voices or pens a rumor, no matter how logical it sounds, about any team unless it's a proven fact. War Eagle and Happy Holidays!!

    One more thing, we all need to get used to the idea that this controversy will never end. People will believe what they want to believe and some petty, small minded, jealous folks will use this to tweak the noses of AU fans for as long as they can get a reaction. That's just the way it is.

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  • Sorry for the attitude, guys. I think I've developed a stomach ulcer over the last month. It was feeling like a fairy tale until November 5th...one of those seasons when everyone wants to see you win. But that's not who we are at Auburn, and we know it. "Us against the world" has always been the theme. Maybe the great season will stick and the mess will go away...that's what I'm hoping for. Someone said the worst thing that could happen was that we'd have to vacate wins...that's pretty bad in my book. What I don't want is to have a 5-year brouhaha like USC went through (yes, they deserved it), but I'm not going to sit around and worry. If it comes, it comes. Auburn has done what they needed to compliance-wise. Let the chips fall where they may. See you in Glendale on the 10th (figuratively...I'll be watching on tube). WDE!

  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    Sorry for the attitude, guys. I think I've developed a stomach ulcer over the last month. It was feeling like a fairy tale until November 5th...one of those seasons when everyone wants to see you win. But that's not who we are at Auburn, and we know it. "Us against the world" has always been the theme. Maybe the great season will stick and the mess will go away...that's what I'm hoping for. Someone said the worst thing that could happen was that we'd have to vacate wins...that's pretty bad in my book. What I don't want is to have a 5-year brouhaha like USC went through (yes, they deserved it), but I'm not going to sit around and worry. If it comes, it comes. Auburn has done what they needed to compliance-wise. Let the chips fall where they may. See you in Glendale on the 10th (figuratively...I'll be watching on tube). WDE!

    Amen. Now you're talking! Wish you were able to go though..

  • DeltaTiger said... (original post)

    Well I don't think you could honestly read what I have written and and say that I am advocating being meekly "resigned to our fate". As I stated numerous times, we need to fight the good fight on this one. That said, I also think we need to be prepared to accept the fact that, in all likelihood, the die has been cast and there is little we can do to change it.

    I must say, however, that the fact that you still don't understand the O.J. analogy even after I explained it twice is baffling to me. Rather than assuming bad faith on your part, I can only assume that you aren't really reading what I wrote, but are skimming and jumping to conclusions.

    Delta, I'm not a skimmer and I understand what point you were trying to make with the O.J. analogy. I just don't think there's any benefit in comparing Cam with O.J.

    And I am not ready to concede that the die has been cast.

    Let's enjoy the next five weeks and see you in Glendale! War Eagle!!