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Mr. Marshall, I appreciate your thoughts. However, I couldn't disagree more. My own college experience was one of hardship and determination. My parents couldn't afford to pay for my schooling, but they made just enough to keep me from qualifying for grant monies. For 3 1/2 years, I woke up around 5-5:30 a.m. and drove from my small hometown to work full-time at a bank in a nearby city 30 minutes away. When the banking day was over, I drove an hour to Troy University (Troy State back then) and took evening classes from 7:00-10:45 p.m. I then drove from Troy back home--another 45 minutes. I usually made it home around midnight. I did this Mon-Fri for my entire college experience. No parties. No "college life". But, you will never hear me complaining. I learned hard work and sacrifice during a crucial period in my life.
You might be wondering what my point is...so I'll try to get to it:
These young men (football players) are not cattle. They are not being herded up by Universities/ESPN and abused for money profits. The culture we live in creates the demand--your readers and others across the country. These players are glamorized, granted the opportunity to receive a top-notch educataion (which last time I checked--I worked hard and paid my way through Troy--something to the effect of $50,000+). They are fed like kings. I scrapped my way through lunches (eat $1 chicken finger sandwich specials with a free water at Dairy Queen). They learn to work together, and if they do, they develop a kinship with other players that will last a lifetime. Most importanty, they are doing what they love to do--they are not victims being forced in to slave labor. If you love something, you learn to sacrifice for it. What a great lesson this teaches them.
We live in a day of entitlement. So many feel like the world around them owes them everything. But, this cripples people. I agree with the sign on the weight room walls @ the Auburn Athletic Dept.--"No Entitlement". These kids are afforded the opportunity to have the best of both worlds. They get paid the education, shelter, food, and experience of learning the valuable lessons of hard work and dedication that being a football player teaches (all the while having the opportunity to wear those orange and blue uniforms and play for Auburn University. They are better for it--not worse. And as much as I'd like to see ESPN take a nosedive from the monopoly of sportscastinig that it is, it isn't their fault that they are making a profit. That is just good business.
What WOULD change college football for the worse would be to make it more of a slippery slope. Once you start giving additional sources of payment, no matter how small, the door will be opened and it will be a constant tug of war that will not be healthy for college sports. It will lose what purity that it still manages to maintain.
Just my opinion. And again, I'm not complaining about my experience. I'm simply using it for contrast. I am very proud of my education and the lessons I learned while in school. War Eagle!
You will most likely be banned, thread lock or severely down voted for thinking outside the box.
You're not the only one that worked while in college. I worked two jobs. You seem to want to begrudge these kids for being talented and being able to earn athletic scholarships. You will never know many of the sacrifices a lot of these kids make, just like they will never know the sacrifices you made. By the way, less than 2 percent of these athletes will ever make any money playing their sport. So, they're out there making sacrifices for your entertainment. Were you making your sacrifices for theirs?
Here you go: (read harder)
"These young men (football players) are not cattle. They are not being herded up by Universities/ESPN and abused for money profits. The culture we live in creates the demand--your readers and others across the country. These players are glamorized, granted the opportunity to receive a top-notch educataion (which last time I checked--I worked hard and paid my way through Troy--something to the effect of $50,000+). They are fed like kings. I scrapped my way through lunches (eat $1 chicken finger sandwich specials with a free water at Dairy Queen). They learn to work together, and if they do, they develop a kinship with other players that will last a lifetime. Most importanty, they are doing what they love to do--they are not victims being forced in to slave labor. If you love something, you learn to sacrifice for it. What a great lesson this teaches them."
Translation: I used my own college experience to contrast with a football players and try to draw some simple points. You can draw your own conclusions from my post.
* No one makes them do what they do.
* They get a great education that their playing football for their respective Universities award them.
* They get paid meals and lodging.
* They are given an opportunity to do what they love to do.
* They are learning hard word and sacrifice.
Hence, I believe there is no reason to pay them anything else. Hope this helps.
My taking English exams would not create a market of avid fans...and that would actually be a point that would affirm my original post---so thank you very much. If you "comprehended" PM's post, then you realize that part of his main argument was that ESPN and the SEC were making mega bucks--while players are not paid.
We fans create the demand. We are the reason that so much money is out there to be made. The Universities and ESPN are just making good business decisions--no fault in that. If you want to carry thru with your argument...just stop watching. I took test to graduate--no other reason. And, I got my diplomas. But, if you'd like to pony up the dough to see if people would actually make money off of my testing and offer me a scholarship to go back to college to get my PhD, then I'd sign those papers in a heartbeat my friend.
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"You seem to want to begrudge these kids"
You are making a stupid accusation because you do not agree with me. I repeat, it is a STUPID accusation.
I, on the contrary, have great RESPECT for anyone who will work hard to attain a goal. It is those who expect handouts and freebees that I begin to lose respect for-and you can take that statement to the bank!
kick 'em in the ass, big blue.
I agree with you quik180.
More and more we are moving into an entitlement culture where if someone else is getting rich, we have to find a way to say that isn't fair. Why isn't it fair? ESPN, while I hate that they "make news" versus report news, is reaping the benefits of an excellent business plan. Supply and demand works...and they are highly successful because of it. These kids, while sure they have to work hard, get a greater leg up than most every college student out there. Even those who don't make it to the NFL typically get job offers with alumni/boosters that they simply would not have if they didn't play football. Trust me...I worked at a bank and a former Auburn football player (won't name him so don't ask) who could barely talk straight and honestly was dumb as bricks got hired in as a manager in training for a branch. He leapfrogged a ton of potential internal candidates who really wanted that job. Then, after a few months, they gave him a branch to manage. It was a total disaster. He was completely unqualified, but they kept him in that role for quite a while. I left the bank years ago, so I have no idea what came of him...but my point is that these kids certainly get greater opportunities than most college students. Hard work is part of the price.
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This post screams of someone looking for attention. No sarcasm, congratulations to you for your hard work and achievements. But your viewpoint is simply not realistic. At all. And I, like most other people, still don't see what the point of this post was other than to let everyone know how hard your college life was.
You actually use the phrase "good business" in the same breath of trying to explain how college athletes, who are THE integral part of a hundred billion dollar industry, should just be satisfied with a 50k scholarship, meals, and learning teamwork and good work habits. Its not like Phillip is suggesting anything out of line. Better meals, a stipend, insurance, etc. I see nothing unreasonable about that.
Seriously man, that's great what you did. But your situation is completely different. Nobody watched you go to work on TV. Nobody exploited your efforts to enrich themselves and then told you to be satisfied with cafeteria food (saying they eat like kings is a joke). I really don't even see how you could try to draw that comparison, or what you are even trying to say here. It really seems like you just wanted to use this opportunity to talk about how hard your college life was.
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"Your post screams of someone looking for attention"
Why did you post? So that no one would read it? There is a great deal of hypocrisy in that statement and the fact you made it at all.
I, in fact, did post for the reason of drawing attention to something that I believe in--I used my story for contrast. I appreciate your kind words about my experience in college, but really, it was just to make a point.
Nobody is saying that there's anything wrong with ESPN making money. That is completely irrelevant. ESPN should make all the money they can. You're right its a good business model, but that's not the point at all. PM is suggesting that as more and more money flows into this business, the actual players (you know... the actual product on the field that generates the money in the first place) should also reap some of that benefit. He's not saying they should get rich. But have you seen how much more money there is in this sport than there was just 10 years ago? 20 years ago? Coaches salaries and TV contracts have doubled, tripled even. ts not too much to ask for players to get a little more as well. Not a salary or a signing bonus. But meals, insurance and a stipend like PM suggested seems very fair. A "leg up on other students" doesn't really seem fair to me, no offense. If you're one of the more well known popular players, sure you MIGHT become a bank manager or a salesman if you know the right people. Gee, that's an attractive offer and all. But if I'm part of the product that generates hundreds of billions of dollars a year I'm probably not going to be satisfied by your offer.
Me saying "you SEEM" is accusing you? It is not accusing you. It is what I get from what you say. It is what I infer. It is not accusing. Maybe you should not be so defensive because I don't agree with everything you say.
I posted to carry on a conversation. To make a point. Not to draw attention to myself and how difficult my college life was. I didn't include any personal information about myself. How you see that as hypocritical is beyond me. By your logic every post on this board is to seek personal attention regardless if it contains any personal information.
I know you said you only used your story for contrast and to make a point, but it really does not come off that way. It comes off as boastful and a half-hearted attempt to link it to PM's story.
It kind of reminds me of Selena Roberts writing. "Hey I worked so hard during college, had no money and look what I have acheived! Oh yeah, college football players shouldn't receive a stipend or anything extra".
If you were a college football player or something along those lines then it would make sense. Otherwise it just doesn't and you're completely missing the point of PM's post. Its about the huge increases in revenue the SEC and CFB in general have seen in recent years, and the lack thereof for the players who are the primary genearator of said revenue, and the leverage that they potentially could use if they are not offered some sort of compensation soon.
Again, draw from or "infer" what you want from my story. If you want to continue making long posts to convince yourself that I am bitter and looking for attention, be my guest. But, you are wasting your time.
Since when is inferring that it was my conclusion by posting a response yourself not, in simple terms, an accusation? Oh, I see...it must've been an inference of an accusation.
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