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Comprehensive recruiting rankings from 4 systems averaged (long)

  • The rating of individual players is subjective, so they obviously differ from site to site. Then, those player ratings are stuffed into a point calculation system that is unique to each site. Starting with different player ratings and then feeding those numbers into different calculation systems obviously produces different results on the different sites...sometimes drastically different.

    Personally, I trust the guys at 247 to give the best recruit analysis. I'm not sure how their point system works, but since I trust the evaluations, I trust the outcome of the team rankings...even if it doesn't work out the best for Auburn this year.

    However, there is something to how each site does it, so I thought I'd average them all out.

    Since everyone uses different ranking/point systems, I took the number 1 team from each site and gave them a 1.00 point total. The #2 team was then a percentage of the #1 team. In other words, if the #1 team had 1000 points and the #5 team had 876 points, then the #1 team gets 1.00 and the #5 team gets .876. At 247, Alabama was #1 with a point total of 781. FSU was #2 with a point total of 773. 773 points is .989% of 781. So Alabama gets a 1.00 and FSU gets a .989.

    I did that for all four sites, giving the top 25 teams on each site a % of the point total of the #1 team. The exception was ESPN, who doesn't show points. So I just subtracted .025 from each team counting down from #1. In other words, #1 was 1.00, #2 was .975, #3 was .950, #4 was .925, #5 was .900, and so on.

    And here is the way they stacked up....

    1. .985 - Alabama
    2. .969 - Texas
    3. .913 - Ohio State
    4. .905 - Florida
    5. .872 - Michigan
    6. .854 - Florida State
    7. .824 - Stanford
    8. .815 - Miami
    9. .796 - Georgia
    10 .789 - Oklahoma
    11 .772 - USC
    12 .739 - Clemson
    12 .739 - LSU
    14 .715 - Auburn
    15 .710 - UCLA
    16 .703 - South Carolina
    16 .703 - Texas A&M
    18 .696 - Oregon
    19 .636 - Tennessee
    20 .615 - Washington

    NOTES:
    It was interesting to see certain teams all over the place in the rankings on each site. Here are some that had a wide range:

    LSU -
    #7 high on Scout
    #17 low on Rivals

    Georgia -
    #5 high on ESPN
    #13 low on Scout

    Clemson -
    #9 high on ESPN
    #22 low on 247 Sports

    South Carolina -
    #12 high in Scout
    #19 low on Rivals

    USC -
    #7 high in Rivals
    #20 low on Scout

    FSU -
    #2 high on 247 Sports and ESPN
    #10 low on Scout

    Notre Dame -
    #10 high on ESPN
    #22 low on Rivals

    Auburn's high and low was #12 on Rivals and #17 on 247 Sports and ESPN. And before anyone says "of course ESPN has us low", remember that they had us #3 and #4 the last two years...the highest two year average of any of the sites.

    The truth is, recruiting rankings matter. They are an indication of the overall talent and depth you acquire each year. But the subjective nature of evaluating the players that make up the classes that make up the rankings means that the rankings should, as the very least, be viewed in groups. Is #7 really that much better than #12 on any given site? Especially since those two teams might be ranked #10 and #14 on another site?

    In my opinion, I would group the top 20 teams by percentages related to the top team. Maybe the .900 teams, the .800 teams, the .700 teams, etc, as teams ranked that closely over the range of four different sites are essentially a subjective toss-up.

    So for this year:

    Group 1 consists of Alabama, Texas, Ohio State, and .Florida
    Group 2 consists of Michigan, Florida St, Stanford, and Miami.
    Group 3 consists of Georgia, Oklahoma, USC, Clemson, LSU, Auburn, UCLA, South Carolina, and Texas A&M.
    Group 4 consists of Oregon, Tennessee, and Washington.

    In this case, I would only say there are eight classes that are CLEARLY ahead of Auburn's class. And that Auburn's class is on par, or in the same general ball park, as that of Georgia, Clemson, A&M, LSU, etc. After all, two sites had Auburn at #12 and #13, while two sites also had Georgia at #11 and #13. So even though Georgia averages out on the four sites at #9 and AU averages at #14, who's to say which ranking for each team are actually right. If you look at the two examples I just gave for each team, you'd think they were dead even.

    Anyway, just some thoughts. As Seraph likes to point out...worth what you paid for them.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by jadennis on 2/2/2012 at 11:22 AM

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  • jadennis said...

    I actually think your averaging and conclusions makes sense. Great job in explaining your logic. You must have taken a lot of statistics.thumbsup

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  • Excellent. Thanks for laying this out. AU is in fine shape. Could it have been better? Yep. It still might. I agree in part to your statement, "Recruiting rankings matter.", in that it matters toward perception. But Recruiting the right people and filling needs matters more. Also, the rankings are pretty consistent across the diferent sites. But I do trust this staff to sign kids that may not be ranked as high by some recruiting services. JMHO.

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  • I'm new to the site, but I guess that's why they keep you around. Nice work

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  • Jadennis, Thank you for your input. I do have one question though, how do you take into consideration the addition of the fullback Jay P. and in prior years the adding of Blakely & Grant. Tim.

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