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It is a really sad culture on week 3 of the season to be continuing to call for a coaches head when we are clearly in a rebuild year. What part of our personnel doesn't scream REBUILD YEAR to people?
I'll start by listing a few thingsOffense
A sophomore quarterback who hasn't participated in a real passing game in two years while having to completely re=learn how to play his position with a new coordinator limited in play calling by said players development and spread offense personnel
Sophomore spread style running backs outside of our speed guy who weighs 170 lbs
2 Freshman Starters at Tackle and a sophomore centerAnother point to measure is looking at the Wr core...
Outside of Blake, we have no upperclassman that provide any quality depth whatsoever. Benton has been problematic off the field and a let down. Stallworth was recruited to play the Tony Franklin offense and doesn't figure to be a difference maker and doesn't block well on the outside which has cost us several large gains on offense.
Then we have a plethora of freshman and sophomores who we are counting on who look to be turning the corner. The emergence of Coates yesterday along with Quan Bray has been encouraging for the future.Same thing for the D.
I think the way you have to measure coach Chizik is when his team is made up of mostly upperclassmen starters with talented younger guys sprinkled in. Unfortunately, being in the league we are in with the recruiting competition we have and the lack of coaching turn over from those who we closely recruit against makes it take a little longer. Like it or not this is basically a JV version of what we will be. Getting your butt kicked my MS State hurt and it sucks but when things go bad for young Qbs they go bad.
I don't know if anyone remembers how Jason Campbell was a deer in the headlights his soph year but he was terrible.
We are still rebuilding and all this constant whining is really embarrassing for Auburn
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AuGR said...
It is a really sad culture on week 3 of the season to be continuing to call for a coaches head when we are clearly in a rebuild year. What part of our personnel doesn't scream REBUILD YEAR to people?
I'll start by listing a few thingsOffense
A sophomore quarterback who hasn't participated in a real passing game in two years while having to completely re=learn how to play his position with a new coordinator limited in play calling by said players development and spread offense personnel
Sophomore spread style running backs outside of our speed guy who weighs 170 lbs
2 Freshman Starters at Tackle and a sophomore centerAnother point to measure is looking at the Wr core...
Outside of Blake, we have no upperclassman that provide any quality depth whatsoever. Benton has been problematic off the field and a let down. Stallworth was recruited to play the Tony Franklin offense and doesn't figure to be a difference maker and doesn't block well on the outside which has cost us several large gains on offense.
Then we have a plethora of freshman and sophomores who we are counting on who look to be turning the corner. The emergence of Coates yesterday along with Quan Bray has been encouraging for the future.Same thing for the D.
I think the way you have to measure coach Chizik is when his team is made up of mostly upperclassmen starters with talented younger guys sprinkled in. Unfortunately, being in the league we are in with the recruiting competition we have and the lack of coaching turn over from those who we closely recruit against makes it take a little longer. Like it or not this is basically a JV version of what we will be. Getting your butt kicked my MS State hurt and it sucks but when things go bad for young Qbs they go bad.
I don't know if anyone remembers how Jason Campbell was a deer in the headlights his soph year but he was terrible.
We are still rebuilding and all this constant whining is really embarrassing for Auburn
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AuGR said...
It is a really sad culture on week 3 of the season to be continuing to call for a coaches head when we are clearly in a rebuild year. What part of our personnel doesn't scream REBUILD YEAR to people? I'll start by listing a few things
Offense A sophomore quarterback who hasn't participated in a real passing game in two years while having to completely re=learn how to play his position with a new coordinator limited in play calling by said players development and spread offense personnel Sophomore spread style running backs outside of our speed guy who weighs 170 lbs 2 Freshman Starters at Tackle and a sophomore center
Another point to measure is looking at the Wr core... Outside of Blake, we have no upperclassman that provide any quality depth whatsoever. Benton has been problematic off the field and a let down. Stallworth was recruited to play the Tony Franklin offense and doesn't figure to be a difference maker and doesn't block well on the outside which has cost us several large gains on offense. Then we have a plethora of freshman and sophomores who we are counting on who look to be turning the corner. The emergence of Coates yesterday along with Quan Bray has been encouraging for the future.
Same thing for the D.
I think the way you have to measure coach Chizik is when his team is made up of mostly upperclassmen starters with talented younger guys sprinkled in. Unfortunately, being in the league we are in with the recruiting competition we have and the lack of coaching turn over from those who we closely recruit against makes it take a little longer. Like it or not this is basically a JV version of what we will be. Getting your butt kicked my MS State hurt and it sucks but when things go bad for young Qbs they go bad.
I don't know if anyone remembers how Jason Campbell was a deer in the headlights his soph year but he was terrible.
We are still rebuilding and all this constant whining is really embarrassing for Auburn
This post was edited by Bigdaddy36830 on 9/16/2012 at 1:51 PM
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bobber15 said...
The thing that alot of people have a hard time understanding is - why should we be having to rebuild after 4 years? Why cant you understand that?
4 years by any measure is sufficent time to establish who and what you are. The idea that the present state of the program should not be questioned is nuts.
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The idea that the current state of the program should be questioned by you is nuts. Doesn't mean you can't do it. Just means you shouldn't. Open your eyes. First year starter at QB. Two frehmen starting at tackle. Only two senior leaders on offense.
Does it matter why we are where we are or does it matter how we can fix it? And by the way we have established who we are. Maybe its not who we want to be but as of now it is exactly who we are. No one is saying we shouldn't gt better but it does no good to say "why should we have to rebuild". W are rebuilding. Its a fact. Why cant you understand that?
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bobber15 said...
The thing that alot of people have a hard time understanding is - why should we be having to rebuild after 4 years? Why cant you understand that?
4 years by any measure is sufficent time to establish who and what you are. The idea that the present state of the program should not be questioned is nuts.
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How about I try?
It's because the foundation of a college football program is recruiting and Chizik inherited a program in a decline that clearly was going to have a gaping hole in 2011 and 2012 due to recruiting issues.
In the mean time he resurrected an experienced roster to give us a national championship and has taken the edges off of the gap with exceptional recruiting classes. Last year his team won 8 games including a bowl game. I think the casual fan chronically fails to give Chizik the credit he deserves for that. But ya, Chizik has won three bowl games, an SEC championship and a National Championship in his first three years while largely making decisions that are best for the long term health of the Tiger program without taking any recruiting shortcuts according to an exhaustive NCAA investigation.
People spending the Herculean effort it takes to type a post that required neither thought, any apparent burden to support an opinion, nor more than 30 seconds at best really seem to miss the forest for the trees IMHO.
If Chizik were fired today he would be leaving behind a Tiger football program that is in much better shape than the one he inherited.
But if one simply wants to vent and dig no deeper than empty platitudes while refusing to see any positive sign of progress or inertia, then I guess it's one's prerogative. But I'm mystified by why someone wants to be viagra for Shadow. it's frankly kind of disturbing on many levels.
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