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  • Got a question for you. Should my wife and I file jointly or seperate? We were fortunate enough to make a lot of money. The majority of my income is commission and gets taxed at a very high rate. We own a house and have 1 child. If we filed jointly we will be on the upper side of the 28% tax bracket.

    Married Filing Jointly 2011 Tax Brackets
    Taxable Income
    Marginal Tax Rate:
    $0-$17,000 10%
    $17,000-$69,000 15%
    $69,000-$139,350 25%
    $139,350-$212,300 28%
    $212,300-$379,150 33%
    $379,150+ 35%

    auballin

  • auballin said...

    Got a question for you. Should my wife and I file jointly or seperate? We were fortunate enough to make a lot of money. The majority of my income is commission and gets taxed at a very high rate. We own a house and have 1 child. If we filed jointly we will be on the upper side of the 28% tax bracket.

    Married Filing Jointly 2011 Tax Brackets Taxable Income Marginal Tax Rate: $0-$17,000 10% $17,000-$69,000 15% $69,000-$139,350 25% $139,350-$212,300 28% $212,300-$379,150 33% $379,150+ 35%

    You can prepare the return both ways and then file the one which provides the higher
    refund or the smaller amount to pay. I have seen very few examples of where it is more
    advantageous to file MFS than MFJ. I hope this helps. WDE.

    putman01

  • A lot of it depends on the deductions and the disparity between your incomes. If you file separate, if one itemizes, then both have to... though it does not mean that the person who paid the bill has to be the one claiming the deduction. Where it really makes a difference is if you have high medical expenses and they are all claimed by the person with the lower income. This could also be appropriate if you have high other deductions that are subject to a reduction based upon adj gross income. Beside that, normally it will cost you to file separate, as the joint table kind of averages the income to determine the rate. I have one couple that file separate every year even though it costs them extra because he owes back taxes from before their marriage. If they file jointly now, any refund she would get is applied to his debt. Other than these comments, there is no hard and fast rule and the best thing is to prepare both ways and see how you come out. I have done thousands of returns over the years and I have only found a few situations besides what was covered previously, where filing separate was the better way to go. At the same time, I have had to honestly tell some couples that made comparable incomes that staying single was the better option. Hope this helps (though I'm not a CPA).

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  • The two above are on point. Most tax software will allow you to label each income and deduction item as either taxpayer, spouse or joint. By doing that, you typically can run a filing status optimization that will calculate tax under MFS and MFJ. you can then see the comparison and make your decision.

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    Whitem12003

  • For whatever it's worth, I generally agree with the comments that you've gotten. There are a few (very few) situations in which MFS makes sense in terms of saving taxes. Generally, you end up with a better answer MFJ. You won't know until you run it both ways. There are some peculiar rules that sometimes make MFS a worse answer (and I am a CPA).

    This post was edited by taxgirl on 3/14/2012 at 8:51 AM

    taxgirl

  • Thanks for the feedback. Can you label it using turbotax software. I normally would do it through turbotax but not aware of that.

    Also I have a 1099 business that I have on the side that made around 10-15k that I do itemize mileage, expenses, etc.

    I may have to employ an accountant this year, any recommendations?

    auballin

  • auballin said...

    Thanks for the feedback. Can you label it using turbotax software. I normally would do it through turbotax but not aware of that.

    Also I have a 1099 business that I have on the side that made around 10-15k that I do itemize mileage, expenses, etc.

    I may have to employ an accountant this year, any recommendations?

    I'm not a local CPA (live in St. Petersburg, FL), but I would advise asking around town and using someone who's been in your area a while. Your return doesn't sound super complex, so I wouldn't go to a large firm. Depending on the size of the firm, your return may or may not get completed by 4/17/12, as being only a month away, most firms are slammed with returns. I would say smaller firms, or individual CPA practices could probably take you on and file timely.

    I've never used TurboTax, so I can't attest to whether or not you can lable the input as Taxpayer, Spouse or Joint, though I would imagine it would. It's a pretty common practice to run a filing status optimization, if anything, so you just know where it stands.

    Hope this helps.

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    Whitem12003

  • Bottom line - use a preparer or software that allows you to tag income and deductions as either taxpayer or spouse (or joint). This will give you your answer. Rarely, is MFS a better option as far as the bottom line refund (or tax due.)

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  • Where do you live? I am actually a CPA in the Auburn / Opelika area. I am an Auburn graduate (BS & Master's) and have 15+ years experience in public accounting in tax. I do have the ability to look at the MFS / MFJ issue. We do a lot of things for folks remotely (i.e., they email pdf information to us, and we prepare returns). We also do tax planning. If you're not from around the area, I can likely make a recommendation in another city. If you'd like to drop me an email, my address is lil@hhcpas.net. Also, here's a link to my LinkedIn profile: www.linkedin.com/in/lilserviss

    Given the complexity that you've described, I would suggest that you do get someone to assist. When you add a 1099 (Sch C), it gets a good bit more complicated, and you could leave deductions on the table. Further, tax software packages are great, but if you misinterpret a definition, you could set yourself up for an IRS notice. You can find good CPAs that will prepare your return at a reasonable rate, and provide you with peace of mind.

    This post was edited by taxgirl on 3/14/2012 at 1:12 PM

    taxgirl

  • That would prob help. I am in Bham

    auballin

  • I am a CPA. File jointly unless you are not married.

    Wishiwasbo

  • Heck just use the Geitner method. Don't file if you will owe anything.

    Luther

  • Geithner actually didn't treat self employment income as such (even though he was told the income was SE income by whoever was paying him). He blamed his issue on Turbo Tax. Interestingly, the IRS (which Geithner heads) doesn't accept the Turbo Tax defense to avoid penalties. Go figure! Enough nerd factoids.....

    taxgirl

  • auballin said...

    That would prob help. I am in Bham

    I would always recommend using an accountant (CPA or public) unless the return is
    super simple. I used to practice and saw so many instances where someone doing his/her
    own return would make many mistakes. The returns now with the new schedule D,
    figuring the taxability of social security and the like make this chore too difficult for the
    average person. Best of luck to you this tax season. Thanks so much for asking a tax
    question.

    putman01