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AU: An Administration with zero accountability...

  • This IS the problem. Period.

    What other school would have the year that Auburn alumni/fans/community has experienced in Basketaball AND Football and there not be some serious accountability at the TOP?

    Bank on this: if we don't see accountability and action now, things will continue to slide due to the simple facts of acceptance and tolerance. We are becoming a program without direction (overall). And while I do have confidence that Malzahn will make improvements in the football program, we have to look at this issue comprehensively. This 2012-2013 year has been the absolute worst in Auburn history--as far as wins and losses in the SEC are concerned. Tell me, when have we ever had a year even remotely close to this without changes made in the administration? Any takers to give a GOOD answer to that?

    We want to act like big boys in the SEC? Then we MUST make changes. Leaders MUST be held accountable.

    Some of you will make me out to be a hateful fan with an agenda against JJ and co. That is not the case. I am not against them. I am FOR AUBURN. And, I want to see this university do better. It is certainly capable.

    This post was edited by PhillipMarshall on 3/14/2013 at 11:50 AM

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  • quik180 said...

    This IS the problem. Period.

    What other school would have the year that Auburn alumni/fans/community has experienced in Basketaball AND Football and there not be some serious accountability at the TOP?

    Bank on this: if we don't see accountability and action now, things will continue to slide due to the simple facts of acceptance and tolerance. We are becoming a program without direction (overall). And while I do have confidence that Malzahn will make improvements in the football program, we have to look at this issue comprehensively. This 2012-2013 year has been the absolute worst in Auburn history--as far as wins and losses in the SEC are concerned. Tell me, when have we ever had a year even remotely close to this without changes made in the administration? Any takers to give a GOOD answer to that?

    We want to act like big boys in the SEC? Then we MUST make changes. Leaders MUST be held accountable.

    Some of you will make me out to be a hateful fan with an agenda against JJ and co. That is not the case. I am not against them. I am FOR AUBURN. And, I want to see this university do better. It is certainly capable.

    Lets just be on the same page. Mal Moore was uas AD through the 6 straight losses to us. Their basketball team sucked during that time as well.

    Please a little bit of research would show this fact out to you.

    Do i think JJ is a useless tool box..Yes I do. But the obssesive nature of a new thread each and every day acting like we will never be good enough to compete...well lets just say its getting older and older every day. Almost to the point that me a staunch JJ hater....is defending him... to a point. i still get my digs in at him. But dayum.

    JJ is to blame for every loss. And has no responsibility for any wins
    JJ since AU is 6th in total bottom line in the SEC....is lacking in fiscal roles as well.
    JJ is to blame for everything that ever has happend in the program that is bad. But had no part in anything good.
    JJ did not have any part in the 2010 natty. But he was fully to blame for the 2011 and 2012 seasons.

    You getting the picture??

    if you have the power...Please fire the guy.

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  • OK, since you brought it up, how about you tell me which year Mal's Football and Basketball programs finished the year worse than we have this year. And, you brought Mal into this--not me.

    I do not blame every loss on JJ. And yes, JJ was in position to receive credit for 2010's football successes. I DO believe, however, that he, along with others in position, should be held accountable for the OVERALL DIRECTION of the program. Tell me, how is this unreasonable?

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  • quik180 said...

    OK, since you brought it up, how about you tell me which year Mal's Football and Basketball programs finished the year worse than we have this year. And, you brought Mal into this--not me.

    I do not blame every loss on JJ. And yes, JJ was in position to receive credit for 2010's football successes. I DO believe, however, that he, along with others in position, should be held accountable for the OVERALL DIRECTION of the program. Tell me, how is this unreasonable?

    We get it. Is the point. Dont need another rant about how awful everything is. Can you answer me that you have put ANYTHING forward that hasnt already been discussed ad nauseum??

    Get some coffe. Take a chamomile bath or somthing and bring it down a notch.

    Mal Moore.
    Hired Mike Shula
    Hired Mike Price
    Hired Dennis Franchione

    Football is king...And this list should be a list of coaches to hire if wanting to lose your job as AD. Correct?

    JJ Hired a guy that was out of his depth as a head coach. But still won a Natty in 2010!
    Mal hired a guy that went to a strip club and used a University credit card. Never coached a single game.
    Then Hired a guy that was equally as out of his depth as was CGC.
    Mal then ran off a head basketball coach that had taken his team as close as it has gotten to the final 4 maybe ever?

    What this tells me is that one hire can change the entire landscape of what a perception of an AD is. Hired Saban and not one person is questioning his ability to hire and get good coaches. Anthony Grant is not doing well. Are the bama faithful calling for Mal or for grants head?

    JJ is not who i want. Let me be clear. But damn. the constant nagging is doing nothing for anyone.

    Do you think your rant is true and that we will never compete? So you have already given up on Gus?

    This post was edited by TheRealRanRob on 3/14/2013 at 9:52 AM

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  • The reason this needs to be repeated because we are in a horrible horrible situation, and we can't just let it slide or be forgotten.

    Being the first team to ever finish 14th in Basketball and 14th in Football is mind numbingly horrific and it will haunt Auburn athletics for a long time. Mal's Bama program had its mediocre phases but it was never in such a dire situation.

    2010 was a total anomaly, Gene Chizik was a terrible choice made by a terrible AD. Barbie is a recruit first coach who was hired at a program that has its hands tied in recruiting. Another terrible choice. These results are all due to awful hiring by an AD who is out of his league, incompetent and at his core manipulative.

    Jacobs brags on SEC Championships during his tenure, the vast majority of which were won by a swimming coach he did not hire and in fact helped lead out the door. It is a disgusting situation.

    14th in football and basketball is a game changing event. It is so bad there isn't even a precedent for it. It should never ever come close to happening at Auburn and everyone with a pinky in it should be let go.

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    The reason this needs to be repeated because we are in a horrible horrible situation, and we can't just let it slide or be forgotten.

    Being the first team to ever finish 14th in Basketball and 14th in Football is mind numbingly horrific and it will haunt Auburn athletics for a long time. Mal's Bama program had its mediocre phases but it was never in such a dire situation.

    2010 was a total anomaly, Gene Chizik was a terrible choice made by a terrible AD. Barbie is a recruit first coach who was hired at a program that has its hands tied in recruiting. Another terrible choice. These results are all due to awful hiring by an AD who is out of his league, incompetent and at his core manipulative.

    Jacobs brags on SEC Championships during his tenure, the vast majority of which were won by a swimming coach he did not hire and in fact helped lead out the door. It is a disgusting situation.

    14th in football and basketball is a game changing event. It is so bad there isn't even a precedent for it. It should never ever come close to happening at Auburn and everyone with a pinky in it should be let go.

    But do you honestly think any of the AU faithful that populate this board dont already know??

    Send your message to the Prez. Send it to the board of trustees.

    But this horse is so dead that it is already burried and has been exumed over and over. And over and over and over and over...Again! Wash rinse repeat!

    And to add to that point. there are no deal makers or big dogs on here that can exact the change you are looking for.

    But please continue to deadhorsedeadhorse

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  • TheRealRanRob said...

    But do you honestly think any of the AU faithful that populate this board dont already know??

    Send your message to the Prez. Send it to the board of trustees.

    But this horse is so dead that it is already burried and has been exumed over and over. And over and over and over and over...Again! Wash rinse repeat!

    And to add to that point. there are no deal makers or big dogs on here that can exact the change you are looking for.

    But please continue to deadhorsedeadhorse

    Don't click on the thread then. I'd be content if someone started this topic everyday. Keep it top of mind, keep people reminded of the situation we are in and why. Leave it alone on the board and it goes away until we have another painful reminder of our inept leadership.

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    Don't click on the thread then. I'd be content if someone started this topic everyday. Keep it top of mind, keep people reminded of the situation we are in and why. Leave it alone on the board and it goes away until we have another painful reminder of our inept leadership.

    Come on.

    Again. Who on here is going to do anything about it? You? Me? Maybe harryBerry can start a thread about it and we can pin it for you? Would that make you feel better when we lose?

    Vent all you want. But please read the other 300 threads that were started with the same premise and tell me that this hasnt been beaten to death.

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    Don't click on the thread then. I'd be content if someone started this topic everyday. Keep it top of mind, keep people reminded of the situation we are in and why. Leave it alone on the board and it goes away until we have another painful reminder of our inept leadership.

    I agree with your sentiment, but TheRealRanRob has a point. We're all blue in the face. It is what it is. This stance doesn't make us resolved to Auburn failure or accepting of non-performance, but the simple fact of the matter is that Dr. Gogue and the BOT members (the only people with the ultimate power to rectify this situation) don't read message boards. Reheating the same topic over and over without adding any new information or solution OR without being in a position to implement said solution. It would be more effective to contact Dr. Gogue and the BOT members. Their contact information can't be that difficult to obtain. You're 100% correct- I don't have to read the thread and you are COMPLETELY entitled to your opinion, but I have to wonder if you feel better once you post the topic over and over with no changes?

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